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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmeirista View Post
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    "Alvaro Alvarez García Peru have 1 million Italian descendent and half a million of British and Germans ones, but don't appear here. How?"

    that's true??
    Well there was no data for Peru so it's not like I had a choice as to whether to include them or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    yes but the problem is not only that italian is more prominent. I meant something else. The different surname variation doesnt allow us to compare between different ethnicities.

    Imaginate tenes un pais con 2 millones de italianos y 100.000 chinos. Vas a tener 50.000 Rossi y 50.001 Wang. Se entiende?

    Podes comparar Rossi BRAvs Rossi ARG pero no podes comparar Rossi vs Wang.
    Aaa sisi obvio te cacho perfecto.. En Italia los apellidos comunes son "menos comunes" no se si se entiende

    Pero igual sirve pa diferenciar y no se, al menos en el nuevo thread que abri todo hacia sentido.. Brasil mas aleman, Argentina mas italiana y Chile mas britanico (en terminos muy generales obviamente).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmeirista View Post
    Just seen this haha I thought you meant you loved maps

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    Quote Originally Posted by Costas View Post
    Aaa sisi obvio te cacho perfecto.. En Italia los apellidos comunes son "menos comunes" no se si se entiende

    Pero igual sirve pa diferenciar y no se, al menos en el nuevo thread que abri todo hacia sentido.. Brasil mas aleman, Argentina mas italiana y Chile mas britanico (en terminos muy generales obviamente).
    si pero el problema es que no podes comparar apellidos italianos con alemanes y decir que brasil es mas aleman cuando los apellidos alemanes se repiten mas que los italianos

    http://forebears.io/italy#surnames

    1 Rossi 267,910 1: 227
    2 Russo 126,766 1: 479
    3 Esposito 97,407 1: 624
    4 Ferrari 91,416 1: 665
    5 Bianchi 85,918 1: 707
    6 Romano 77,296 1: 786
    7 Colombo 76,400 1: 795
    8 Ricci 61,821 1: 983
    9 Marino 59,156 1: 1,027
    10 Franco 58,966 1: 1,030

    Total 927.000



    http://forebears.io/germany#surnames

    1 Schneider 318,741 1: 253
    2 Fischer 242,082 1: 333
    3 Weber 231,054 1: 349
    4 Wagner 212,460 1: 380
    5 Meyer 206,577 1: 391
    6 Becker 206,005 1: 392
    7 Hoffmann 180,754 1: 447
    8 Bauer 172,248 1: 469
    9 Schulz 171,878 1: 470
    10 Mueller 167,104 1: 483


    Total 2.105.000



    2.105.000/927.000 = 227%


    Si un pais fuera 50% italiano 50% aleman, con las respectivas varaciones de apellido, los top 10 apellidos alemanes serian mas de dos veces los top 10 italianos, por mas que la ascendencia es la misma.


    Mira con los apellidos ingleses


    1 Smith 395,915 1: 136
    2 Jones 262,805 1: 205
    3 Williams 189,730 1: 285
    4 Brown 181,282 1: 298
    5 Taylor 174,178 1: 310
    6 Patel 162,391 1: 333
    7 Wilson 128,846 1: 419
    8 Davies 126,614 1: 426
    9 Johnson 123,775 1: 436
    10 Evans 111,546 1: 484

    Total 1.851.000



    El doble que los italianos

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    Quote Originally Posted by Argentano View Post
    si pero el problema es que no podes comparar apellidos italianos con alemanes y decir que brasil es mas aleman cuando los apellidos alemanes se repiten mas que los italianos

    http://forebears.io/italy#surnames

    1 Rossi 267,910 1: 227
    2 Russo 126,766 1: 479
    3 Esposito 97,407 1: 624
    4 Ferrari 91,416 1: 665
    5 Bianchi 85,918 1: 707
    6 Romano 77,296 1: 786
    7 Colombo 76,400 1: 795
    8 Ricci 61,821 1: 983
    9 Marino 59,156 1: 1,027
    10 Franco 58,966 1: 1,030

    Total 927.000



    http://forebears.io/germany#surnames

    1 Schneider 318,741 1: 253
    2 Fischer 242,082 1: 333
    3 Weber 231,054 1: 349
    4 Wagner 212,460 1: 380
    5 Meyer 206,577 1: 391
    6 Becker 206,005 1: 392
    7 Hoffmann 180,754 1: 447
    8 Bauer 172,248 1: 469
    9 Schulz 171,878 1: 470
    10 Mueller 167,104 1: 483


    Total 2.105.000



    2.105.000/927.000 = 227%


    Si un pais fuera 50% italiano 50% aleman, con las respectivas varaciones de apellido, los top 10 apellidos alemanes serian mas de dos veces los top 10 italianos, por mas que la ascendencia es la misma.


    Mira con los apellidos ingleses


    1 Smith 395,915 1: 136
    2 Jones 262,805 1: 205
    3 Williams 189,730 1: 285
    4 Brown 181,282 1: 298
    5 Taylor 174,178 1: 310
    6 Patel 162,391 1: 333
    7 Wilson 128,846 1: 419
    8 Davies 126,614 1: 426
    9 Johnson 123,775 1: 436
    10 Evans 111,546 1: 484

    Total 1.851.000



    El doble que los italianos
    Toda la razón

    Están subrepresentados los italianos entonces.

    De todas formas por lo menos Santa Catarina a mí me tinca que es más alemán que italiano.. RGS y Paraná no sé.. Quizás Paraná es más italiano porque está al lado de SP

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    Is possible to do a thread with most portuguese/spanish regions too or it would be impossible since everybody received spanish/portuguese surnames including amerindians and africans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmeirista View Post
    Is possible to do a thread with most portuguese/spanish regions too or it would be impossible since everybody received spanish/portuguese surnames including amerindians and africans?
    The problem with iberian colonial surnames is that they have different frequencies than Spain. The most mestizo provinces tend to have a huge repetition of some surnames and sometimes the most common surnames in Spain are not even important.

    I have done top 5 Spanish surnames for Argentina and the peaks are in the provinces that recieved recent iberians. Thats because these provinces mantain the spanish frequency.

    The most mestizo provinces in the other hand dont peak (although most of their surnames are spanish) because they have other rare surnames (For Example Soto in Chile, Sosa in Uruguay, Benitez in Paraguay, Maidana in Argentina, etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmeirista View Post
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    "Alvaro Alvarez García Peru have 1 million Italian descendent and half a million of British and Germans ones, but don't appear here. How?"

    that's true??

    Peru received a good amount of italians. The middle-upper "white" class from Lima is full of italians. I think that more italians emigrated to Peru than to Chile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by perikolez View Post
    Peru received a good amount of italians. The middle-upper "white" class from Lima is full of italians. I think that more italians emigrated to Peru than to Chile.
    I know some Peruvian diplomats (as most Latin American diplomats, they are from the white middle/upper-class) and many of them have Italian surnames. But I did not know the Italian immigration to Peru was large than to Chile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meninodeengenho View Post
    I know some Peruvian diplomats (as most Latin American diplomats, they are from the white middle/upper-class) and many of them have Italian surnames. But I did not know the Italian immigration to Peru was large than to Chile.
    I don't think we got many Italians to be honest. So it wouldn't surprise me if there were more in Peru

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