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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinan Zirić View Post
    Only blood counts.

    I can change my name to whatever I want.

    If you hate other religions then... your problem not mine.

    Yes my ancestors came from Karlovac region, they converted during Ottoman Empire.

    My last name "Zirić" also recognizable in that region... "Kupalište Zirić" kod Drežnika selo Vaganac.

    Ali generalno ja sam anacionalan, ne volim ni Hrvate ni Bošnjake i Srbe.. to su za mene primitivni
    termini. Historija je daleko kompleksnija, jer svi zajedno pripadamo Rimskoj kulturi i civilizaciji i to
    je najbitnije.
    A otkud te u Karlovcu kad se zna da je taj predio bio pustinja bez jedva zive duse zbog Osmanlijskih upada. Lika je bila ista. I sad ti koji je dosao na ta predio od bog zna kuda sa Turcima si Hrvat. Pa se ne bi smijao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinan Zirić View Post
    No,no only small portion. Of course that Bosniaks a separate nation.

    There is a community of Croatian muslims in "Krajna" region (Bihac, Banja Luka, Kladusa) who are ethnic Croats.
    There are no Muslim Croats in B&H nor I have ever heard of them. They can also think that pigs fly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrulj View Post
    A otkud te u Karlovcu kad se zna da je taj predio bio pustinja bez jedva zive duse zbog Osmanlijskih upada. Lika je bila ista. I sad ti koji je dosao na ta predio od bog zna kuda sa Turcima si Hrvat. Pa se ne bi smijao
    Kako god vi kažete, ja nemam namjeru da se raspravljam uopšte na tu temu.
    Sama činjenica da raspravljate o nacijama je za mene bezveze. Prepirete se u koga je veći, čiji grb je ovaj onaj..

    Sve od Slovenije do Grčke zajedno sa Albanijom je jedan narod različitih vjerskih uvjerenja koji su oformili nacije
    da pljuju jedni druge zbog vjerskih uvjerenja, i da bi određena skupina familija debelo zaradila na jednoj takvoj
    dramaturgiji.

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    Another potential good thread ruined by spam.

    There exist "Muslim Croats" in Velika Kladusa, I know because some of them study in Rijeka. It was very strange to hear, because that region is alien to many Croats and they have no understanding of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinan Zirić View Post
    Kako god vi kažete, ja nemam namjeru da se raspravljam uopšte na tu temu.
    Sama činjenica da raspravljate o nacijama je za mene bezveze. Prepirete se u koga je veći, čiji grb je ovaj onaj..

    Sve od Slovenije do Grčke zajedno sa Albanijom je jedan narod različitih vjerskih uvjerenja koji su oformili nacije
    da pljuju jedni druge zbog vjerskih uvjerenja, i da bi određena skupina familija debelo zaradila na jednoj takvoj
    dramaturgiji.
    You are troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Another potential good thread ruined by spam.

    There exist "Muslim Croats" in Velika Kladusa, I know because some of them study in Rijeka. It was very strange to hear, because that region is alien to many Croats and they have no understanding of it.
    There exist people who just think they are Muslim Croats. Almost all Croats from B&H are Catholics and others atheists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Slivovitz View Post
    There exist people who just think they are Muslim Croats. Almost all Croats from B&H are Catholics and others atheists.
    According to your logic, if they reconvert to Catholicism they will become Croats, if they convert to Orthodoxy they will become Serbs... (according to your logic).

    The only ethnic Bosniaks are Bogomils who constituted a significant population in Bosnia, but again they are slavic-illyrian community of people just like any other in region.. and it means literally nothing. It's just that modern day nationalism has ruined relations among all peoples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinan Zirić View Post
    Kako god vi kažete, ja nemam namjeru da se raspravljam uopšte na tu temu.
    Sama činjenica da raspravljate o nacijama je za mene bezveze. Prepirete se u koga je veći, čiji grb je ovaj onaj..

    Sve od Slovenije do Grčke zajedno sa Albanijom je jedan narod različitih vjerskih uvjerenja koji su oformili nacije
    da pljuju jedni druge zbog vjerskih uvjerenja, i da bi određena skupina familija debelo zaradila na jednoj takvoj
    dramaturgiji.
    Ja nisam musliman pa sam opet Bosnjak. Niti me vjera zanima pa bi opet vlastorucno sve Srve od besike do groba tupim nozem klao.

    Ali ne iznenadjuje me tvoja retorika, gledam ti aliku, imas lice SDP sluzbenika. Pogane komunjare

    Quote Originally Posted by Feiichy View Post
    Another potential good thread ruined by spam.

    There exist "Muslim Croats" in Velika Kladusa, I know because some of them study in Rijeka. It was very strange to hear, because that region is alien to many Croats and they have no understanding of it.
    The daughter of Fikret Abdic declares herself as a Croat. What traitors declare themselves for benefits is no concern to anyone
    Hi everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrulj View Post
    Ja nisam musliman pa sam opet Bosnjak. Niti me vjera zanima pa bi opet vlastorucno sve Srve od besike do groba tupim nozem klao.

    Ali ne iznenadjuje me tvoja retorika, gledam ti aliku, imas lice SDP sluzbenika. Pogane komunjare



    The daughter of Fikret Abdic declares herself as a Croat. What traitors declare themselves for benefits is no concern to anyone
    Ja ne znam za Fikreta Abdića, niti me on zanima. Ne smetaju meni ni muslimani ni katolici ni ništa... to mene ne interesuje, ja u lične stvari ne ulazim.

    Ja govorim u svoje ime, što mi je Deda govorio da smo iz Hrvatske i da smo došli ovdje u Krajnu, ja sad ne mogu da komentarišem modernu Hrvatsku
    svjest koja jedne prihvaća a druge odbacuje.

    Eto ti si Bošnjak u to nema sumnje, i bilo bi groteksno da neko kaže drugačije, kao što evo kolega meni govori da nemam pravo na Hrvatski identitet zbog vjere, ali nije bitno,
    ja se ne bih stidio da sam Bošnjak, možda da sam samo zašutio i govorio da nisam iz Hrvatske onda bi bilo sve u redu?... a zapravo bi bila laž...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    Hi, I know the "official version" but I would like to hear from Croats:

    1) what is the current political situation among Bosnian Croats today ?
    Very bad. In Croatian media lately main themes was arrest of HVO officers in RS and attack on Croats during elections in Stolac.
    2) how did it happen that Bosnian Croats got the worst deal after the wars ?
    3) who is responsible for this ?
    Perverse Dayton agreement which left BiH unfunctioning third world country, with Croat-Bosniak federation as new Yugoslavia. Bosniaks got ethnicaly cleansed from Republika Srpska and now are trying to compensate over remaining BiH Croats. If there where three parts of country from beginning it would be better.
    4) what is the current relationship between Croatia and Bosnian Croats ?
    Croats symathise with them and become more aware of their hardship and with who are they living in BiH. Symathies for Bosniaks are detoriating fast, previously many Croats from Croatia did not have negative view of Bosniaks . Even my father who is part Bosniak but follow politics became increasingly hostile towards their politics like rest of Croatian population.

    Only solution or BiH is Dayton 2.

    PS I don't know why Jack is silent about the topic. Must be famous "Croatian silence" -political term from second part of 20th century when Croats sliently endured abouse in Yugoslavia.

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