USA wants to add new racial category for middle easterners

[Myanthropologies]

What do Turks have to do with Saudis or Yemenis? You don't know where the term Middle East comes from you idiot. lel

Exactly. You have much more to do with afghans than to do with saudis, and I do know where the term comes from. But with the modern accept definition, a lot of MEs slightly overlap.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

There is no way that Iran and Afghanistan can be considered separate in terms of history, etc. Especially in modern days. What does Iran have to do with gulf arabs but not with afghans?

Let me say it again with caps lock this time.

THE TERM MIDDLE-EAST DOES NOT ENCOMPASS AN ETHNIC OR RACE-RELATED CO-RELATION. IT'S MEERLY A GEOPOLITICAL TERM USED FOR THE PURPOSE TO ONLY INCLUDE THE ABOVE MENTIONED NATIONS IN RELATION TO HISTORY & POLITICS

The reason for that is, because it's on these grounds the true clash of civilizations happend, till our current day & age !

[Myanthropologies]

Middle East is a Western term...so they have the right to determine its parameters, borders, who fits in it and who doesnt.

People from that part of the world arguing about who is and isnt middle eastern makes us much sense as an American Christian arguing if he is a dhimmi or a kafir in the eyes of sharia.

Myanthro...you think British Colonial cartographers said to themselves "wait we can't draw the line here...why, Iran and Afghanistan are sisterly nations, Why would we split them up? That would offend the Pashtun peoples".

That was a long time ago. We are talking about the modern views of the world. Afghans are middle eastern as far as the US is concerned. Besides, the afghans handed the British their ass three times, so what they said is irrelvant now anyways

[Myanthropologies]

Let me say it again with caps lock this time.

THE TERM MIDDLE-EAST DOES NOT ENCOMPASS AN ETHNIC OR RACE-RELATED CO-RELATION. IT'S MEERLY A GEOPOLITICAL TERM USED FOR THE PURPOSE TO ONLY INCLUDE THE ABOVE MENTIONED NATIONS IN RELATION TO HISTORY & POLITICS

The reason for that is, because it's on these grounds the true clash of civilizations happend, till our current day & age !

Afghans were part of the history of a lot of those civilizations. You are also very stuck to old definitions. In the modern day and age, Afghans are considered middle eastern. They assimilate so many American middle eastern immigrants and the modern MENA community would not be complete without Afghans in the picture.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

That was a long time ago. We are talking about the modern views of the world. Afghans are middle eastern as far as the US is concerned. Besides, the afghans handed the British their ass three times, so what they said is irrelvant now anyways

So your argument for letting the Afghans, board the Middle-eastern ship is because the Brits decided to go on a picnic trip there, somewhere in the 19th,20th & 21st century ?

[Myanthropologies]

So your argument for letting the Afghans, board the Middle-eastern ship is because the Brits decided to go on a picnic trip there, somewhere in the 19th,20th & 21st century ?

No. You're highly misunderstanding what I'm saying. You're comparing the original definition of middle eastern to the modern one, two different things.

[Ylla]

they need to make their mind up, does race exist or not.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Afghans were part of the history of a lot of those civilizations. You are also very stuck to old definitions. In the modern day and age, Afghans are considered middle eastern. The assimilate so many American middle eastern immigrants and the modern MENA community would not be complete without Afghans in the picture.

Might aswell bring pakistanis, Indians, north africans (who happends to speak arabic), central asian republics, the caucasus, hell bring in bosniaks and albanians aswell while you're at it.... All based on your theory of high school alliances, and the "ethnickid" after school activities !

[Pennywise]

Exactly. You have much more to do with afghans than to do with saudis, and I do know where the term comes from. But with the modern accept definition, a lot of MEs slightly overlap.

Turks have nothing to do with both.

No. You're highly misunderstanding what I'm saying. You're comparing the original definition of middle eastern to the modern one, two different things.

There are no two seperate definations of M. East. There is only one and it's a western term.

[Myanthropologies]

Might aswell bring pakistanis, Indians, north africans (who happends to speak arabic), central asian republics, the caucasus, hell bring in bosniaks and albanians aswell while you're at it.... All based on your theory of high school alliances, and ethnickids after school activities !

No, that's completely different. Afghanistan is a mixture of cultures, Iranic and Turkic, and is ethnically closest to Iranians and Turks on a country to country level. Iranians and Turks are what? Middle Eastern. The modern use of Middle Eastern is not a poltical term, but moreso an ethnic term nowadays.