Which country has a higher proportion of people passable in Argentina: USA or Mexico?

[Argentano]

I live in Argentina, so let me explain this whole "argentina is/isn't white" thing.
Buenos Aires and, more specifically, middle to upper class areas are almost totally populated by white people, there's a few who don't but they're the exception. So even if in these areas there's a huge white component, it's not the same in other provinces. Most of the country outside of Buenos Aires is in fact populated by people of color, except for a few towns wich where funded by european inmigrants. To make it simple, there's a lot of whites here in Argentina, but we're becoming a minority since inmigration from mostly non-white countries is flooding us.

Dont forget that


1)Not only buenos aires is very euro. Santa Fe, Cordoba, Entre Rios, La Pampa and parts of Mendoza are very euro too. Thats like 70% of the country population.

Santa Fe for example recieved a similar % of euro immigrants as buenos aires, and is recieving less internal/limitrofe immigants today. Its around 80% euro in genetic studies today and its the 3rd most populated province.

This is not an opinion its based in genetic studies and population numbers from the census.

2) The rest of the provinces are mostly around 50-60% euro which is actually pretty euro for latin american standards. Corrientes scored 62% euro in a recent genetic study.

3)According to last 2010 census argentina had around 4,5% of immigrants of which around 1% were either europeans or uruguayans. Of those latin american immigrants Paraguayans and Chileans are mostly mestizo and the only ones that are pred amerindian are bolivians and peruvians.

[Zuh]

To me Argentina outside of Santa Fe Las Palmas Buenos Aires Rios Cordoba, is like Northern -West -Central Mexico 50-66% Euro on average

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

Almost any white gringo could be Argentine, because in Argentina the very nordified phenotypes are exotic but not atypical or nonexistent. Mexican indomestizos cannot be Argentines.

Here everybody are assuming that all native americans looks the same, which is wrong.
An itsmid would be completely out of place in Argentina, in the same an Andid wouldn't blend easily in mexico.


Mexico
http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Centralid.html
http://humanphenotypes.net/basic/Margid.html

Argentina
http://humanphenotypes.net/Patagonid.html
http://humanphenotypes.net/Pampid.html

[Zuh]

Fenotipos mexicanos






Ellos son de Nuevo Leon unos de los estados mas blancos de Mexico 30%+



Argentina vs Mexicana

[Westbrook]

That guy doesn't look exotic in America

Im not saying they cannot pass but its true that the majority of white americans looks like just the minority of lighter white argentines.

This is how i picture both whites

A crowd of 10 Gonzalo Rodriguez would look exotic in USA the same way a crowd of 10 Tom Bradys would look exotic in Argentina

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

people From Argentina:




Mexico:

[hipaware]

I think there is a higher percentage of North Americans who could pass in Argentina than Mexicans.

Lets put it this way:

We know that white Mexicans in general, for being mostly of Spanish stock, can fit better in Argentina than most white North Americans (who are mostly of Germanic/Anglo Saxon origins). However, contrary to popular belief, there is a huge phenotype and pigmentation overlap between people of Anglo-saxon/Germanic stock, like most white North Americans, and people of Italian/ Spanish stock, as most white Argentinians. As I have always said on this forum, there are plenty of Germans, British, Irish, and their descendants who would have no trouble passing in Italy or Spain, and by extension as white Argentinians, as long as they are not extremely pale and have not too sharp, Nordic like features, and inversely, there are literally loads and loads of Italians, Iberians and their descendants who would have no trouble blending in without standing out at all as "too swarthy" or anything like that, in many parts of Europe, including among Germans, British and Irish, and by extension, among white Anglo/Irish/Germanic North Americans. And this is because people who are not too swarthy for Euro standards, and who are not to pale and Nordic either, but who have a very fair complexion for Euro standards are pretty common among people of Spanish/Italian stock as well as among people of Anglo/Irish/German stock.

This without mentioning that there is a considerable minority of Argentinians of British or German background who would fit perfectly among North Americans of Northwestern Euro stock, as well as considerable minorities of white North Americans of Italian, Greek, and to a less extent Iberian, stock who would perfectly fit in Argentina for being of southern Euro stock just as most Argentinians.

Here's a funny video of a White American of Anglo background fitting in Buenos Aires. Most thought he was a local and spoke to him in Spanish. I think a more Amerind Mestizo Mexican would be seen as "foriegn"

[Zeus]

Here's a funny video of a White American of Anglo background fitting in Buenos Aires. Most thought he was a local and spoke to him in Spanish. I think a more Amerind Mestizo Mexican would be seen as "foriegn"

Or they just didn't know English or didn't know what his language/ethnicity was because he doesn't seem to be speaking much in the vid...... People spoke French to me in France, doesn't mean they thought I was a local...

[alnortedelsur]

Or they just didn't know English or didn't know what his language/ethnicity was because he doesn't seem to be speaking much in the vid...... People spoke French to me in France, doesn't mean they thought I was a local...

The thing is that the Anglo American guy doesn't stand out among them. And the white looking Argentinians in the videos (most of them very likely of Spanish, Italian or a mix of Spanish/Italian stock) don't look swarthy compared to him, and would not stand out if they were in a crowd of standard (British/German descent) white Muricans.

If the Anglo-American guy had an extremely Nordic ghostly pale phenotype and squarish face like Reese Whisperiston, Leven Rambin or Conan O'Brien, he wouldn't blend that well, but the guy is not like them, and has a standard fair complexion and soft features, like most white Argentinians. And lots of Anglo Americans are like him, not only like Leven Rambin or Conan O'Brien.