The Apricity Vegan Thread

[Kazimiera]

After some mental preparation, staunch warnings and moral support I took Mr Kazimiera to the vegan restaurant again. He grumbled (as usual) but he went along with it. There was a big a buffet and he found some things he liked. As he was munching away, he admitted that what he selected is very nice.

He also discovered coffee with honey. It is such is a weird combination that I've never tried it because it doesn't sound very pleasant. The husband is normally very suspicious of anything which sounds strange, but for some reason he agreed to coffee with honey AND he liked it! I tried a little and it wasn't bad. I'd have to commit to a full cup of it to be able to pass proper critique.

Last night we ordered pizza and I accidentally ordered our usual veggie pizza but with chicken (my mistake). The husband said he will eat it any way, since it is there. It's the first time in months that he's had chicken (or ANY kind of meat). Halfway through the first bite he said, "This is revolting!" I told him before he went vegetarian that after a few months any kind of meat will not taste pleasant anymore. He was skeptical then, but admitted last night that he was so surprised when he found the chicken to taste awful. He said, "It tasted like something that shouldn't be eaten". He ate the rest of the pizza but scraped the chicken off.

[Zephyrus]

After some mental preparation, staunch warnings and moral support I took Mr Kazimiera to the vegan restaurant again. He grumbled (as usual) but he went along with it. There was a big a buffet and he found some things he liked. As he was munching away, he admitted that what he selected is very nice.

He also discovered coffee with honey. It is such is a weird combination that I've never tried it because it doesn't sound very pleasant. The husband is normally very suspicious of anything which sounds strange, but for some reason he agreed to coffee with honey AND he liked it! I tried a little and it wasn't bad. I'd have to commit to a full cup of it to be able to pass proper critique.

Last night we ordered pizza and I accidentally ordered our usual veggie pizza but with chicken (my mistake). The husband said he will eat it any way, since it is there. It's the first time in months that he's had chicken (or ANY kind of meat). Halfway through the first bite he said, "This is revolting!" I told him before he went vegetarian that after a few months any kind of meat will not taste pleasant anymore. He was skeptical then, but admitted last night that he was so surprised when he found the chicken to taste awful. He said, "It tasted like something that shouldn't be eaten". He ate the rest of the pizza but scraped the chicken off.

Stop torturing that poor man, you... you... you evil woman!!!

[Kazimiera]

Stop torturing that poor man, you... you... you evil woman!!!

HE is the one who wanted to go vegetarian to start off with. I've been cooking a lot for him and he enjoys everything I make. (Except the carrot, beetroot and lentil combination which he says tasted like I've just dug it out the ground and flung it into a pot.) Today I wanted to invite him out for lunch but our options are very limited. There are only one or two things we can order from a conventional menu, so I suggested there. I was somewhat reluctant because of the way he was last time but I thought I'd give it a go.

One of his gripes with the place last time were what he calls the "grey people": those vegan types who are so "natural" they have dreadlocks, probably haven't washed in a while and are so thin and emaciated their skin has an unhealthy greyish tone. They also tend to wear crystals and are into some kind of alternative healing. He didn't like them at all. It was a bunch of those grey types who had the "tofu dog" the last time we were there. He said I must never think of turning him into a "grey person". I promised him I wouldn't. What he did find encouraging this time, though, was a very, very large Afrikaner uncle, with his wife and kids. Afrikaners are known to be very conservative, so if a big Afrikaner uncle can go there, then he can too. There were also no "grey people" around today (which was a good thing).

He tried some of my juice and said it tasted like something you scrape off the bottom of a lawnmower, but he did like what he selected for himself. AND he enjoyed the coffee with honey.

He said we can "go there again". This is code for: I like the place and the food and I'd like to go again. I don't mind going places on my own, but it's always nicer to have your partner with you.

[Enflamme]

lol

[Sekarotuinen]

I try to be vegetarian, but I always end up eating a burger or cheating in some other way a couple times a month. I exercise frequently, so it isnt for my health that I try to be vegetarian, but rather out of ethical concerns. How do I build up the willpower to go veggie?

[Defiance]

i'm a firm believer of the bloodtype diet

I'm a firm believer that you're an idiot.

How do I build up the willpower to go veggie?

Well, you could watch Earthlings. That's what finally pushed me over the edge.

[Sebastianus Rex]

I'm a firm believer that you're an idiot.

Dude, stop being a douche and go eat a steak.

[catgeorge]

Dude, stop being a douche and go eat a steak.

Like majority of vegetarians lack the protein for proper brain functionality.

[Aldaris]

I'm not a vegetarian or vegan, but there doesn't seem to be a sound ethical counterargument, which would justify not being vegan. Of course, we can play a bit with definitions and then we'd probably be able to justify almost anything, but the question is, how much we'd slip from our intuitive definitions by doing that. In this case, I'd say a lot, so in conclusion, I'm definitely a theoretical vegan. The question I'd ask vegans, who decided to be vegans for ethical reasons, is this one: Are they aware, they're also contributing to many, many animal deaths by buying various things, whose production caused animal deaths, even though the said things can be substituted relatively easily? Let us take grains for example. In the order to produce grain, it is necessary to devastate natural landscape, which is catastrophic for small animals, who inhabited the area previously, be it birds, rodents or small predators like foxes. Poisonous pesticides they're exposed to don't help the situation either. Of course, you can argue, that you have to eat something, so there is really no other choice. Well, is this really true? No, but you'd have to omit even more food items. You'd have to buy your food pretty much only from private farmers, who grow their vegetables essentially on their gardens and/or grow you our vegetables (it is actually easier than it may sound). This might be a bit frustrating, since there aren't many of such farmers anymore, they're not always available and they might often be short of supplies. My point is, veganism is the most obvious choice, regarding ethics of animal treatment, but there are many other, more subtle things to consider, if you want to be completely consistent. Of course, there's pretty much no way, one can avoid all or extremely close to all the animal deaths, he's indirectly contributing to, certain level of compromise is necessary. Vegans have made the first, most crucial step and I respect them for that.

[Oden]

Im pretty much vegan, i cheat sometimes i admit but for the most part i am vegan!

I love the kitchen and i pickle my own stuff for a hobby !