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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    I stop you there. Frenchmen were the last one who fought on the ruins of berlin. So I don't understand how people talk about us as surrender people.
    Well, in my humble opinion, European men were and are soft pussies. Russians and Serbs are ones who fought with Nazis till the last. If you say Frenchmen were fighting on the ruins of Berlin, I'm not going to argue with you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    The journalist who write the original article admitt ha had lie and the study mission by the URSS show the fact has been highly exagerate.
    Even one of the hero who legendary die in the battle in fact surrender to german and made some military duty in a german unity...
    So how can you talk about a "version"?
    I admit you are correct. Inhabitants of villages around were saying that there was a fight near Dubosekovo, it just wasn't that "heroic" as official legend states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentkiller View Post
    Well, in my humble opinion, European men were and are soft pussies. Russians and Serbs are ones who fought with Nazis till the last. If you say Frenchmen were fighting on the ruins of Berlin, I'm not going to argue with you.
    I think there is a missunderstood there or you are just surprise by my answear .
    I just said frenchmen were the last one who fought in Berlin against soviet and americans.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_W...e_(1st_French)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    I think there is a missunderstood there or you are just surprise by my answear .
    I just said frenchmen were the last one who fought in Berlin against soviet and americans.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/33rd_W...e_(1st_French)
    Anyways, you have lost. So what's the point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentkiller View Post
    Anyways, you have lost. So what's the point?

    I agree on that Europe lost WWII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehan View Post
    Yeap, contrary to 28 panfilov men who aren't at all a legend made by USSR.
    ussr made a lot of legends about this war and the biggest probably is legend about french resistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    You couldn't freely talk about it in the soviet era in Ukraine.
    oh, rly? proves, we need some proves. it was possibe but about whole regions with hunger, povolzhye and kazahstan. and it context and comparing to all period. i know, such ignorant emigrants like you are don't know, but hungers weren't something unusual in whole world in that time. And artificially created hungers too. as example you may take holodomor in usa in 193X during Great Depression time. But you don't know nothing about it due to your lack of education.
    Or nor. excuse me for provocation, but it's impossible for you by usa law. just start bark on usa or talk about some sklet in closet of amercan history - you'll be deported. In my native hohlostan, for example. So, you may continue to bark on dead ussr cause it's safely for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    Most people who actually lived through it have been extremely reluctant to speak of it
    idk, we still remember about those times. there wasn't something espessial in that year for my grands. Maybe your grands were so scared pussies for talk about something even between themselves?
    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    ....even in diaspora communities.
    a fck, this crowd of cheap jakals use ewery opportunity for bark on ex-motherland and therefore main reason they don't bark about it - there wasn't such event as holodomor in theirs lifes
    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    It's the later generations of Ukrainians who have taken more of an interest in it, and with good cause.
    as usual they even don't know about theirs 4th genre grands and easliy eat ewery shit what was proposed to them by present time propaganda. for examle, now we have proved 144 000 years long history. Don't you know something about?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    Honestly, at least on a gut level, I'm not overly thrilled about making this into a big movie production for a general audience.
    agree, i'm also suspicious this "masterpiece" willn't be good enougth for a general audience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentkiller View Post
    I guess, you are wrong person to discuss exploits of Soviet people. France was taken by Nazis for a month, as I know, isn't it?
    PS: Yes, I have heard the version that Soviet propagandists used story of the Panfilov's men to raise morale in Red Army. But no one said that Panfilov's squad did not exist in reality.
    Your idiotic way of attacking someone's country when they dont agree with you (rightfully).

    Russians accusing of state-leaded propaganda is a wonderful The country in which Leviathan was called unrealistic or something, because it pictured Russians drinking vodka (because Russians are too busy with making the Russian mir and have no time for alcohol)

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