View Poll Results: Doli vs Brachy

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  • Doli (Nordid, Med , Pontid , Atlantid)

    77 65.81%
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    40 34.19%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    There is no one to fight with, you are attempting to fight reality in order to delude yourself in to believing something that is utterly false. You continue to refuse to accept that the brow ridge is included in the maximum head length measurement, leading to the inflation of the EUP male and Neanderthal cephalic index. Dolicocephaly is also sex-linked in the European Paleolithic series; the females tend to be more dolicocephalic than the males in spite of their small or absent brow ridges. Including females with males distorts the data in highly sexually dimorphic populations.





    Cro Magnon 2 female with Cro Magnon 3 male:

    Nope. Only you continously posted images of skulls. What are you trying to prove by this. Give table with substracted lengths of Cromags and we can calculate cranial index. Now I posted table from Coon, you posted nothing.
    Sorry your statements are worth nothing unless you back them with quotes from anthro book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolnik szuka zony View Post
    No my dear. I didn't misinterpret facts by posting original plain table from TROE. I provided link to the resource. Everyboys can check

    Coon was wrong? Maybe in other things also Can I post table from Coon [1962] Origin of races? With neanderthal samples with doli or meso means?

    And who you are to fight with Coon?

    @Cosmoo
    Individuals were brachy but mean is most important. Even without Combe Capelle there were doli.

    As for Montnegrins was estimated mean brachy CI, but there were some doli indivduals among them.
    But what determine this population character is brachy mean CI.

    The same for Cromags. There were some brachy among them but not important to change general mean. Doli and meso predominated.
    Small Hungarian boy, you use too many emoticons for a White person. You know that using a lot of emoticons is a characteristic of Asians? You need to keep your Mongolian admixture under control if you want to continue to pose as a White man on a European forum. You rape-baby descendent bitch. ;-)


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    Oh wait.. There are your proofs ^^^^^ ??? )))) Interesting quotes about length of Cromag skull without browridges

    Troll as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolnik szuka zony View Post
    Nope. Only you continously posted images of skulls. What are you trying to prove by this. Give table with substracted lengths of Cromags and we can calculate cranial index. Now I posted table from Coon, you posted nothing.
    Sorry your statements are worth nothing unless you back them with quotes from anthro book.
    Your data is also worth nothing if you cannot interpret it properly. Read the quote and look at the skulls. You're finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    There is no one to fight with, you are attempting to fight reality in order to delude yourself in to believing something that is utterly false. You continue to refuse to accept that the brow ridge is included in the maximum head length measurement, leading to the inflation of the EUP male and Neanderthal cephalic index. Dolicocephaly is also sex-linked in the European Paleolithic series; the females tend to be more dolicocephalic than the males in spite of their small or absent brow ridges. Including females with males distorts the data in highly sexually dimorphic populations.





    Cro Magnon 2 female with Cro Magnon 3 male:

    Cro-Magnon 1 didn't have enough of browridge to distort measures for so much to make his cephalic index go from brachy to dolicho. If we exclude his very small browridge, he was mesocephalic at most, but no way he was brachycephalic.

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    If you are not brachy you should be thrown in a trash compactor.

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    This is where dolicho people belong

    Whether we will have mercy on meso's or not has yét to be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cosmoo View Post
    Cro-Magnon 1 didn't have enough of browridge to distort measures for so much to make his cephalic index go from brachy to dolicho. If we exclude his very small browridge, he was mesocephalic at most, but no way he was brachycephalic.
    Yes he did. That photo is too poor to capture it, but Cro Magnon 1 suffered from a rare cranial infecfion of Actinomyces bovis, a Gram positive bacterium, which erodes bone. His glabella had been nearly completely consumed by the infection, with a complete loss of bone in the midline, and he also had a ring-shaped lesion on his frontal bone.


    Note the glabella is eroded:



    The old man of Cro-Magnon was carrying eroding bone lesions associated with Actinomyces bovis, a Gram positive bacterium.

    (Actinomycosis is a Gram positive infectious bacterial disease which occurs rarely in humans but rather frequently in cattle as a disease called lumpy jaw. This name refers to the large abscesses that grow on the head and neck of the infected animal. It can also affect pigs, horses, and dogs, and less often wild animals and sheep - Wikipedia)

    This non-cancerous growth occurs mainly on the flat bones, the mandible, the long bones and the ribs of the adult male, between 20 to 40 years. In this disease, undifferentiated connective tissue of the bone slowly but chronically proliferates, destroying the the bone. This condition can also give vertebral fractures, lesions that the forty year old also had, so that the diagnosis of Scheuermann's disease that may be associated with it, is, in our opinion, disputed. Patients with eosinophilic granuloma may recover, but death usually occurs by respiratory failure or cardiac arrest.
    Cro Magnon 1 not only had a brow ridge but also his frontal bone is recessed and concave:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grab the Gauge View Post
    Yes he did. That photo is too poor to capture it, but Cro Magnon 1 suffered from a rare cranial infecfion of Actinomyces bovis, a Gram positive bacterium, which erodes bone. His glabella had been nearly completely consumed by the infection, with a complete loss of bone in the midline, and he also had a ring-shaped lesion on his frontal bone.


    Note the glabella is eroded:



    Cro Magnon 1 not only had a brow ridge but also his frontal bone is recessed:
    So this skull meet your fictional criteria of "cutting browridges"... And it's doli without them.
    And if this skull had browridges it will be longer and mopre doli. But it's doli without them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolnik szuka zony View Post
    So this skull meet your fictional criteria of "cutting browridges" And it's doli without them
    Nope. It's brachy. Measurements of the skull are estimates for the missing glabella (the bizygomatic breadth has also been estimated at 153-156mm as the zygomatic arches are missing).

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