Global Emigration Rates

[Argentano]

With all the Trump vs Clinton talk i have realized that many euros think that the "emigration problem" is a 3rd world one. That Europeans stay in their respective countries and the rest of the world migrates. But that is very far from being the case. The truth is that many european nations have huge emigration rates (Emigrants / Native Population), more so than some latin american countries.

I did this charts to show you people that many non euro nations have very low emigration rates (Brazil/Argentina/Venezuela/Chile/Japan/China) and that some euro nations have very high ones (Albania/Portugal/Greece/Ireland). Im in favour of closed borders and good immigration laws , dont get me wrong, but hearing euros complain about emigrants is weird.






Countries ordered by emigration rate : Emigrants / (Native Pop + Emigrants)






*Those results are about country of birth. So somebody who has double citizenship counts as immigrant because he was born in another country.


Thoughts?


Source

http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/05/17/...y=CH&date=2015

[Poise n Pen]

Moving between france and spain is mostly not a big deal. They are at similar levels of development and civilized behavior and they don't have that many kids and there is flow in both directions. (just an example, don't get caught up on details since there is actually not much movement between them). Politically they don't have a big net change either, they do not try to take each other over.

Haiti on the other hand is a nightmare. A population of extremely poor people who do nothing but fuck and conduct crime. Politically they will always vote against evil whitey when they get to his country, or even try to take over by force like in Dominican Republic. Most places are somewhere in between.

Nigration is a huge problem because it's cumulative. It just goes on and on and on. And the more it goes on the less power you have. Also many countries are pure shit and no one should be allowed in from them at all. Muslim countries, black countries, central america. They are simply too fucked to risk any pollution from their populance.

[Tobi]

I want to read the opinions of some europeans about it. Because according to many euro users on here Latin America is just a jungle and shithole and Europe is the paradise on earth. But in reality Europe has a higher emigration rate.

They probably will say stupid things like "well, we emigrate more 'cause we can live in any country of European Union''. What is a lie, since millions of brazilians and argentinians are euro citizes or eligible to an euro citizenship and could live in any Euro country too. Also there are lots of europeans living in Americas, Australia, Africa, China and etc. Why did they leave the paradise?

I like Europe, but some users here are obnoxious and have weird views on immigration and new worlders.

[meninodeengenho]

Yes. Some Europeans seem to think South Americans are immigrating massively.

Spoiler!

I bet some people are going to say the European immigrants are expats, while the South Americans ones are immigrants

[Cristiano viejo]

China low rate of emigration?? there are Chinese in every corner of the world. In every city.

Yes. Some Europeans seem to think South Americans are immigrating massively.

Spoiler!

I bet some people are going to say the European immigrants are expats, while the South Americans ones are immigrants

But you have to understand, meu menino, that South America was build by Europeans, we have the right to travel there always that we want

[Argentano]

Moving between france and spain is mostly not a big deal. They are at similar levels of development and civilized behavior and they don't have that many kids and there is flow in both directions. (just an example, don't get caught up on details since there is actually not much movement between them). Politically they don't have a big net change either, they do not try to take each other over.

Haiti on the other hand is a nightmare. A population of extremely poor people who do nothing but fuck and conduct crime. Politically they will always vote against evil whitey when they get to his country, or even try to take over by force like in Dominican Republic. Most places are somewhere in between.

Nigration is a huge problem because it's cumulative. It just goes on and on and on. And the more it goes on the less power you have. Also many countries are pure shit and no one should be allowed in from them at all. Muslim countries, black countries, central america. They are simply too fucked to risk any pollution from their populance.

I actually dont disagree with anything you have said. But with good immigration laws anybody who is capable and hard working (and not a weight for the state) should be allowed to migrate. Thats my point.

You hear some euros here and its like migrating is unethical and evil and whatever when EUROPEANS MIGRATE A LOT. Thats my point. the problem is not migration, the problem is welfare seeking migration.

[Argentano]

China low rate of emigration?? there are Chinese in every corner of the world. In every city.



But you have to understand, meu menino, that South America was build by Europeans, we have the right to travel there always that we want

Thats because their population is huge. But they dont seem to have a high emigration rate.

[Cristiano viejo]

I actually dont disagree with anything you have said. But with good immigration laws anybody who is capable and hard working (and not a weight for the state) should be allowed to migrate. Thats my point.

You hear some euros here and its like migrating is unethical and evil and whatever when EUROPEANS MIGRATE A LOT. Thats my point. the problem is not migration, the problem is welfare seeking migration.

Your point is biased. You should not compare European migrations with non-Euro migrations.
While when Euros migrated they build progress etc, non-Euros involve chaos, crime, delinquency etc

[meninodeengenho]

China low rate of emigration?? there are Chinese in every corner of the world. In every city.



But you have to understand, meu menino, that South America was build by Europeans, we have the right to travel there always that we want

Well, now we, South Americans, decide who we are going to accept in our countries.

[Cristiano viejo]

Thats because their population is huge. But they dont seem to have a high emigration rate.

But that is irrelevant, what matters is that while you can see Chinese in every European city, you will not see Europeans in every Chinese one.