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    Default False Narrative: White surge made Trump President

    After analyzing these 2016 election exit polls, one surprising factor jumped out at me. The narrative that Trump's win was due to a huge surge of White support is wrong, and not based on facts.

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...olls.html?_r=0

    In fact, Trump only won an additional 1% of overall White votes as compared to Romney 4 years prior.

    What changed were three major factors that I believe helped Trump win.

    1. Significant shift in the TYPE Of White voters. Basically Romney had a solid hold of the establishment business Republican whites, mainly wealthy and educated whites. These shifted to the Hillary camp, because she was the establishment candidate backed by Washington and Wall Street.

    Trump lost those Whites, but they were replaced by poorer, less educated Whites who lived throughout the Rust Belt, this is absolutely critical, because these were the crucial states he had to win. These people were anti-establishment and surprisingly, many voted for Obama before, but switched to Trump to give a big Fuck You to the establishment. They are not necessarily racist, but obviously greatly distrust establishment politicians. So while Clinton actually won the popular vote, many of the White voters who switched to her side were the wealthy and lived in blue states like California and New York, which essentially was useless. While Trump gained significantly on the crucial ones, Rustbelt working class whites.

    2. Surprisingly, and contrary to all the predictions, Clinton actually LOST support among minorities. Blacks, Latinos, Asians all experienced significant shifts favoring Trump compared with Romney in 2012.

    3. Apathy killed Clinton's campaign. People just didn't give a fuck. They didn't like her, they didn't trust her, and they sure as hell weren't going to campaign for her. If Sanders was the nominee, it would've been a different game. But basically many of the people who could've delivered the win to her, like they did for Obama, working class Whites, minorities, etc, just stayed home.

    It's a trove of data, but you can compare demographic voting breakdowns going back three decades. Very informative.
    Last edited by zhaoyun; 11-11-2016 at 12:27 AM.

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    informative.
    yeah the polls were entirely wrong.

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    What I love about Americans are that apathetic dumbfucks usually don't bother to vote. This is actually a strenght of American democracy unlike Europe where every moron has an opinion about politics.

    Trump won Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, working class whites. He also got christians.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    informative.
    yeah the polls were entirely wrong.
    These polling companies need to go out of business. Lost all credibility in this election. It's like a weather forecaster telling people it's going to be sunny tomorrow and it ends up snowing.

    Also, I think a lot of the false narrative is being promoted by the mainstream media who want to caricature Trump as well. So that's a factor.

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    The real false narrative is calling Trumpians uneducated white men.

    He won with 70% of white men and with 53% of white women.
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    You have a false narrative because turnout was good. If it were really anti-hilarity then turnout would be shit for dems.

    It's that deep down the smarter minorities know they need to have a wall and do all the other stuff trump will do or the country is fucked. The ones who didn't vote for trump are the lower IQ people (born out by the stats) and those who can't overcome their bias against whites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poise n Pen View Post
    You have a false narrative because turnout was good. If it were really anti-hilarity then turnout would be shit for dems.

    It's that deep down the smarter minorities know they need to have a wall and do all the other stuff trump will do or the country is fucked. The ones who didn't vote for trump are the lower IQ people (born out by the stats) and those who can't overcome their bias against whites.
    This was basically a majority of whites + smart minority members vs retard minorities + white leftist beta slaves cuckolds vote. Democrats and establishment have been pissing on the white working class for too long, now they paid the price with Trump becoming the 45th US President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    These polling companies need to go out of business. Lost all credibility in this election. It's like a weather forecaster telling people it's going to be sunny tomorrow and it ends up snowing.

    Also, I think a lot of the false narrative is being promoted by the mainstream media who want to caricature Trump as well. So that's a factor.
    Polling can be informative when it's not used as a weapon to manipulate the public. That clearly failed or perhaps we can say it backfired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zhaoyun View Post
    These polling companies need to go out of business. Lost all credibility in this election. It's like a weather forecaster telling people it's going to be sunny tomorrow and it ends up snowing.

    Also, I think a lot of the false narrative is being promoted by the mainstream media who want to caricature Trump as well. So that's a factor.
    The mainstream media lost their credibility with the pollsters, yep. It's a good thing.

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    Infowars was saying though out the ENTIRE election that the polls were wrong and that they were over sampling dems by large amounts.

    MSM was told to support Clinton, that means fixing it so she looks like the clear winner, because a lot of people just vote for who's ahead.

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