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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbowmimi View Post
    The lower numbers still bigger than scotts canadians that are 4kk of canadian population according to census.
    Canada has a much smaller population, while the Americans ancestry is largely colonial, much older and more mixed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbowmimi View Post
    Actually, Scots-Irish is a huge group in USA, i dont know why but they called themselves scots-irish
    They are originally from the Scottish lowlands but lived in Ireland. Scots in the Ulster region of Ireland (Northern Ireland) were called both Ulster Scots and Scotch-Irish. The majority of the Protestants living in Northern Ireland are of lowland Scottish descent and not of English descent. They were sent to Ireland by the Scot King James IV during the Plantation of Ulster to try to better integrate Ireland in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreigner View Post
    From what I've read online,Scotland only sent a few hundred thousands of immigrants to the US, while most Scottish immigrants chose Canada. This mass migrations of the Scots started with the agricultural revolution and the cleareances in both the Highlands and Lowlands.Considering lower class Scots were screwed over by Scottish and English elites, how come they chose to emigrate for the most part to British dominion, especially Canada, where they are a large proportion of the population? Is it because the passage by ship to Halifax was slightly cheaper(for being somewhat more easterly) and Scots are famously stingy?
    Scots actually had a huge influence on America. A lot of different Scots-Irish became presidents of the US. There was a book written about it called "How the Scots Made America" by Michael Fry.

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    Ever since they first set foot in the new world alongside the Viking explorers the Scots have left their mark. In this entertaining and informative book, historian Michael Fry shows how Americans of Scottish heritage helped shape this country, from its founding days to the present. They were courageous pioneers, history-changing revolutionaries, great Presidents, doughty fighters, inspiring writers, learned teachers, intrepid explorers, daring frontiersmen, and of course buccaneering businessmen, media moguls, and capitalists throughout American history.

    The Scots' unflappable spirit and hardy disposition helped them take root among the earliest settlements and become some of the British colonies' foremost traders. During the Revolution, the teachings of the great Scottish philosophers and economists would help to shape the democracy that thrived in America as in no other part of the world. America may have separated from the British Empire, but the Scottish influence on the young continent never left.

    Armed with an inimitable range of historical knowledge, Fry charts the exchange of ideas and values between the Scotland and America that led to many of the greatest achievements in business, science, and the arts. Finally, he takes readers into the twentieth century, in which the Scots serve as the ideal example of a people that have embraced globalization without losing their sense of history, culture and national identity.

    Scottish Americans have been incomparable innovators in every branch of American society, and their fascinating story is brilliantly captured in this new book by one of Scotland's leading historians. How the Scots Made America is not only a must-read for all those with Scottish ancestry but for anyone interested in knowing the full story behind the roots of the American way of life.
    The majority of White Americans that identify as generic "American" as their ethnicity on censuses are Scotch-Irish so the actual number should be higher than what is reported. The Scottish are mostly Presbyterian so that can be an indicator of Scottish ancestry (although not always the case).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreigner View Post
    Canada has more Scots than Irish or Germans, unlike the USA.
    Because the British settled Canada more recently and Canada gained independence from the UK much more recently, so the number of Brits in Canada are going to be over represented in Canada compared to USA.

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    The majority of Scots referred to in the book are the so called "Scots Irish". Some consider those as Irishmen, others as Scotsmen and others as a different ethnic group.In the UK they are known as Ulster Scots.

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