Donald Trump appears to soften on Obamacare and Clinton emails

**Poise n Pen** · 11-12-2016, 06:40 PM

Waco probably would have happened regardless of who was president. Ruby ridge OTOH was basically an assassination of some guy's pregnant wife just because he does not want blacks in the country. And no one really does, most people realize it's just not practical or fair to kick them all out.

**crazyladybutterfly** · 11-12-2016, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Gilgamesh900

My father is anxious and weary of Trump since his connections with many pro-Zionist lobbyists like those at AIPAC is pretty well established. I have a very gutty feeling that Trump would just be another corrupt crook like Obama and Bush. The only politician that seem to have gotten right was Ron Paul, and the Zionist Jewish establishment have destroyed him.

bernie sanders is jewish but I am sure he isnt a "blind supporter" of israel. he is one of the extremely rare politicians who chose this job for the good of people. I bet he was for the 2 state solution and would have condemned the further occupation of palestinian lands on the west bank

**~~Kamal900~~** · 11-12-2016, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly

bernie sanders is jewish but I am sure he isnt a "blind supporter" of israel. he is one of the extremely rare politicians who chose this job for the good of people. I bet he was for the 2 state solution and would have condemned the further occupation of palestinian lands on the west bank

He was, and thats what I like about him. There are times that I wish Bernie would have won the election instead of Trump or Hilary. I guess we'll just have to wait and see on what Trump will do to the middle east once he's in office, but like I said earlier, I have my doubts and suspicion about that guy.

**Poise n Pen** · 11-12-2016, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by crazyladybutterfly

bernie sanders is jewish but I am sure he isnt a "blind supporter" of israel. he is one of the extremely rare politicians who chose this job for the good of people. I bet he was for the 2 state solution and would have condemned the further occupation of palestinian lands on the west bank

Most of them don't support israel at all. Obongo and clinto want to destroy israel basically. This is just some misplaced paranoia. The lefturds all over the world want to flood israel with palestinians and yet they are the ones causing all the wars.

Basically they want all 'nationalism' gone and that is why assad and kaddafi needed to go, even though in reality they were some of the sanest and most reasonable rulers in the area.

Saudis are just puppets so they could care less about them, in reality they have 100% control already even if the princes there are too dumb to figure out they can stop the food, water and power any second like masterblaster in mad max 3.

**~~LieDetector~~** · 11-12-2016, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by Poise n Pen

Most of them don't support israel at all. Obongo and clinto want to destroy israel basically. This is just some misplaced paranoia. The lefturds all over the world want to flood israel with palestinians and yet they are the ones causing all the wars.

Basically they want all 'nationalism' gone and that is why assad and kaddafi needed to go, even though in reality they were some of the sanest and most reasonable rulers in the area.

Saudis are just puppets so they could care less about them, in reality they have 100% control already even if the princes there are too dumb to figure out they can stop the food, water and power any second like masterblaster in mad max 3.

**~~BeerBaron~~** · 11-12-2016, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by zhaoyun

TPP was pretty much destroyed because the populist camps in both parties were against it. Both Trump and Bernie, so Hillary had to change her tune.

If Hillary had won, she would've definitely done a 180 and tried to push it through though.

We know that Hilary, through the wikileaks emails, would have pushed TPP through. She also was caught saying she would use an executive order to get rid of 2nd amendment.

**~~BeerBaron~~** · 11-12-2016, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Poise n Pen

Most of them don't support israel at all. Obongo and clinto want to destroy israel basically. This is just some misplaced paranoia. The lefturds all over the world want to flood israel with palestinians and yet they are the ones causing all the wars.

Basically they want all 'nationalism' gone and that is why assad and kaddafi needed to go, even though in reality they were some of the sanest and most reasonable rulers in the area.

Saudis are just puppets so they could care less about them, in reality they have 100% control already even if the princes there are too dumb to figure out they can stop the food, water and power any second like masterblaster in mad max 3.

The Saudis exert massive influence over the dems, that's a fact shown in the wikileaks emails. The Saudis were the biggest campaign contributor to Clinton and that would have been a massive massive problem, with them funding ISIS and all that.

One of Trumps promises needs to come true, getting rid of foreign donations to political campaigns.

**poiuytrewq0987** · 11-12-2016, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by LieDetector

a gun grabber

Black people with guns are scary, so who could blame him?

911 coconspirator

Get with the times, the Saudis did 911.

and butcher of Waco and Yugoslavia.

The Serbs butchered Yugoslavia and Waco folks were super unhinged.

What possibly could go wrong?

Everything if we refer to your post.

**~~LieDetector~~** · 11-12-2016, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Bulgaricus

Black people with guns are scary, so who could blame him?

Get with the times, the Saudis did 911.

The Serbs butchered Yugoslavia and Waco folks were super unhinged.

Everything if we refer to your post.

1. Black criminals still have their guns it's the law abiding citizen who goes into the jungle of New York that isn't allowed to carry one. People are getting killed, mugged, slashed, raped, and beaten on a daily basis.
2. The Bush regime did 9/11, yes the Saudi's were also in on it as well.
3. Propaganda

**Oneeye** · 11-12-2016, 07:28 PM

Of course he is much more centrist than his campaign let on. I'd rather have someone use a utilitarian approach to policies rather than ideological, so this is very pleasing for me.

I think that he is doing well at playing political chess. Maybe the next election, the Republicans won't have every branch. I don't know who all is up for reelection in a few years, but it is stupid to start out with the most polarizing issues ran through and face increased opposition in the later term (AKA what happened to Obama after Obamacare). They'll just try to reverse what was done.

His best bet is to tackle trade and the economy. It would solidify the rust belt for the Republican base. Overall, he ran as a populist for the working class. He doesn't care about evangelical issues like abortion and gay marriage.

And yes, work with Russia on Syria. Our foreign policy has been such a disaster that he outright criticized the last Republican president at the Republican primaries and won. The area needs stability, not democracy.