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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    A good reminder of just how much we've changed and just how little. This is really new information to me, though. So much for King Arthur and the Knights of the Roundtable.
    Well you're hiting right in the spot actually. The Arthurian Legend became very dear to Henry II (Matilda's son, who was cited previously).

    His wife, Aliénor of Aquitaine, the most powerful and richest woman of all of Europe, had brought poetry and amour courtois to the ruthless English court after she left the King of France (and completely reversed the power balance in Europe)

    Nobles were basically descendants of barbarians who asserted their powers by crushing others. We're talking 10th to 14th century here.

    You're probably thinking of the Renaissance which started in the 15th century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmont View Post
    Well you're hiting right in the spot actually. The Arthurian Legend became very dear to Henry II (Matilda's son, who was cited previously).

    His wife, Aliénor of Aquitaine, the most powerful and richest woman of all of Europe, had brought poetry and amour courtois to the ruthless English court after she left the King of France (and completely reversed the power balance in Europe)

    Nobles were basically descendants of barbarians who asserted their powers by crushing others. We're talking 10th to 14th century here.

    You're probably thinking of the Renaissance which started in the 15th century.
    Probably so...or perhaps no time period at all. My knowledge of that period is obviously rather shaky. During the 10th to 14th centuries, though, Europe was still forming itself as a post-Roman entity, I guess. So barbarity would have been fairly normal still.

    As always, though, the French have been the source of Europe's gentility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smitty View Post
    Probably so...or perhaps no time period at all. My knowledge of that period is obviously rather shaky. During the 10th to 14th centuries, though, Europe was still forming itself as a post-Roman entity, I guess. So barbarity would have been fairly normal still.

    As always, though, the French have been the source of Europe's gentility.
    Haha I've totally come across as a total nerd. I just have a passion for European medieval history and I could talk about it for hours.

    There are some good movies and books that give a pretty good idea of what it was like. Even the historical fiction ones which can be really cool.

    I suggest you read (or watch) the Accursed Kings. It'll give a rough idea of what the French and British royalty was like in the 14th century. They were much more civilized than their ancestors, and still quite gruesome.

    It'll also make you understand the events that led to the hundred years war.

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    my great-great-great-great-great... great grand-father fought along Alexander the Great and confirmed Macedonians were different from Greeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valmont View Post
    Haha I've totally come across as a total nerd. I just have a passion for European medieval history and I could talk about it for hours.

    There are some good movies and books that give a pretty good idea of what it was like. Even the historical fiction ones which can be really cool.

    I suggest you read (or watch) the Accursed Kings. It'll give a rough idea of what the French and British royalty was like in the 14th century. They were much more civilized than their ancestors, and still quite gruesome.

    It'll also make you understand the events that led to the hundred years war.
    No, not at all. It's really awesome that you're not only interested in history, but also knowledgeable about it. If only everyone's interests were so worthwhile. And thanks for the suggestion. I was looking for a nonfiction book to read this coming new year, so I'll definitely take a look at it.

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    Was just thinking about my ancestry today..(don't think about it that much these days)

    My Irish side were talented Artists, my great grandpa did cartoons (funnies) for the local Newspaper. My Dad's German side was fucked up. One of my German ancestors was apparently a murderer, and their offspring also had this bad seed in them, because my Great Uncle was a bad man. He sold booze to the Mafia as a child and grew to be a greedy, brutal (but very unsuccessful) businessman. He couldn't have got this personality from the Irish side because they were all really nice people - the German side was fucked up! Of course there was good in them but there were just some bad ones.

    Through my Great Grandmother I am descended from many early New York families (both Anglo and Dutch). They left New York to come to Ohio and later they came to Minnesota, and converted to Catholicism (reasons I don't know) and intermarried with my Irish Catholic ancestors.

    Then on my Mom's side, just typical Scandinavian and German Lutheran Immigrants (mostly). I actually have some Catholic German ancestry on her side as well, I don't know why they decided to intermarry with Lutherans. Also, my great, great grandmother on my Mom's side was of mostly Anglo descent. Her forebears were Anglo-Canadians and Anglo-Americans. She also had 1 Irish ancestor, through her own grandmother, the Canadian, daughter of an Englishman and an Irish woman that were both emigrants to Canada.

    My grandfather on my Dad's side was in WW2, so was his older brother, my Great Uncle, who flew a B-17 and did many missions. He was shot down a few times, once he was held a prisoner by the Germans - but he liked it because it was the 'only time he got steak' during the war. On my Mom's side, she is younger than my Dad so, it were my Great Grandpas, as opposed to Grandpas, that were in WW2, and one had two Purple Hearts (man, one is enough if you know what that means! ) and a Bronze Star for Courage. The other made the Military his career and thus also fought in the Korean War. By the time he left he was pretty high-ranking.

    Politics in my family is interesting. My grandpa on my Dad's side was a Democrat most of his life (and went to a FDR rally as a kid) but became a Republican after Jimmy Carter's disastrous administration. Mostly because how bad Carter was for business, as my grandpa was a business-owner. Most of my family, both on mom and dad's sides, are Democrats, and were supporting Hillary. My own family was supporting Trump, though and my Uncle did, too. I don't know how common it is for a family to be politically fractured.

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    I have a few. One line of my ancestors inhabited Edinburgh castle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larali View Post
    I have a few. One line of my ancestors inhabited Edinburgh castle.
    Probably would have been military, unless high in the establishment. It is still a military barracks today.

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    My Great Grandfather fought as a Yugoslav Partizan, he died in Bitola trying to stop the Nazis, my grandfather told me that the commander of that partizan unit had told them he had taken out two Germans on a bike and was later shot as the German Batallion made its way in Bitola, the place where he was shot as they were backing up and retreating later up in this place we call Ѓавато, my grandfather told me he was shot on the right side of the ribs and the bullet had come out on the other side of his ribs.

    My grand grand father from my mothers side and some of his cousins migrated to Argentina, this was obviously in the early 1900s, my grand grand father (gg Father) worked in Buenos Aires for 40 years, back then there were no airplanes so he would come back and visit and bring gold once in like 10 years, my gg father had cousins there who never came back I am 95% sure I got family in Argentina that I do not know of, considering the fact that my gg father back then was young, there were no condoms, he stayed long periods of time there, I surely have family in Buenos Aires, he came back from Argentina last time when his only son died of Tuberculosis, shortly after he resorted to Alcoholism, my grandmother would always tell his story and she would cry, she would get usually emotional when her mother would tell her father (my gg father) stop drinking, it is friday, u gotta pray and he would tell her, Friday took my son, what is the point, he did not live long after that, presumably 2-3 years and died sad and depressed.

    I was 4th grade primary school, and I was on the bus with my father, there were these guys on the bus with bags (tourists) my father suddenly started talking to them in a language which was neither Macedonian nor Albanian, I was confused and then he told me that those guys were Danish tourists, apparently my father lived in Copenhagen for 3 years as a kid where my grandparents were working in a battery factory, my father finished his 7th Grade in Denmark and I saw his transcript he has all Aces.

    Also many other stories which I do not feel comfortable discussing hehehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larali View Post
    I have a few. One line of my ancestors inhabited Edinburgh castle.
    When? A number also did during the Seven Year War, the American Revolution, Napoleonic Wars, and Jacobite Rebellion. Either by free choice or as prisoners of war.

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