Y-DNA I2a was in SouthEastern Europe BEFORE SLAVS CAME in 7th century

[Rethel]

And the funny thing is, that if not just 2 guys,
I1 liveing around 1200 BC and I2a-10288 living
200 BC the all I-men would be today the small
minority in Europe, not even be able to daring
to aruge about their supposedly "paraIE" place
among Neweuropeans. Just a thought...

[Dema]

I believe it arrived with Slavs on Balkan.
My humble opinion. Everything so far is pointing that out.

[Rethel]

I believe it arrived with Slavs on Balkan.
My humble opinion. Everything so far is pointing that out.

I have yet two additional "but":

1. The map suggesting possible route, also fits
to vallachian wandering into the N and NE.

2. Even if some came with Slavs, it doesn;t mean,
that "I" wasn't there earlier, especially, that was
allready found in OE samples.

[Bosniensis]

This is how I think it is.

[Rethel]

This is how I think it is.

Firstly, you use a map which is wrongly made.

[Grishnack]

Hmm if I2 came with the Slavs that would make Romanians uber Slavic.
Anyway, if Slavs came with the I2, then why don't we have more I2 in the Slavic motherland? It's almost sure that early Slavs didn't have access to genetic tests to determine which one of them is I2 and must go South and which one has R1 and must stay. So I think that I2 is a paleo-Balkanic haplogroup, along with E-V13.

[Rethel]

Hmm if I2 came with the Slavs that would make Romanians uber Slavic.

You are very slavic even without it.

[Grishnack]

You are very slavic even without it.

I am aware that we are more Slavic than countries who speak a Slavic language, which is a paradox in itself because it raises the question "What makes you Slavic? Speaking the language or having the genes?". Anyway, my point stands. If it is discovered that I2 came with the Slavs (really really really unlikely), then we must re-write all our history and prepare our tracksuits.

[Robocop]

Hmm if I2 came with the Slavs that would make Romanians uber Slavic.
Anyway, if Slavs came with the I2, then why don't we have more I2 in the Slavic motherland? .

Exactly.

It's not ScienceFiction that someone cannot understand this, it's pure and simple facts in all this.

[Drawing-slim]

I am I2a, why not just accept the fact that it has arrived with slavs in the balkans? I see zero point into worrying about that. autosomally i score 95% balkan and 100% european, most relatives albanian E-v13 J2 R1b carriers, , so autosomal dna and based on your relatives is what makes exactly who you're, genetically speaking.