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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    What about Austrians (considering Austro-Hungary)
    There was always a love-hate relationship between our two people, today it is mostly neutral from our side, while from what I heard Austrians don't really bother with us. Since so many Hungarians live and work in Austria I predict that there might be a closure between us, but it will also depend somewhat by the future political regime of Austria. If FPÖ will be the governing force I believe that our relations will tighten quite significantly. Unfortunately political climate has a bigger influence on the common population than it would be needed. Just look at the case of Croatia, where because of Socialist government, critical to Orbán's regime, many Croatians were influenced to look at Hungarians with a lack of confidence lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kril View Post
    hello
    i think Finnish people are ! im not sure ,please correct me if im wrong
    Indeed, many Hungarians look sympathetically towards Finns, but besides that long-long ago our languages originated from the same Uralic nucleus we don't really know much about them, and I presume they also don't know much about us. Plus the great distance between our two people wasn't favorable to have cultural or personal contacts with each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    Indeed, many Hungarians look sympathetically towards Finns, but besides that long-long ago our languages originated from the same Uralic nucleus we don't really know much about them, and I presume they also don't know much about us. Plus the great distance between our two people wasn't favorable to have cultural or personal contacts with each other.
    thank u!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kril View Post
    hello
    i want to know when hungarians appear in history ,and whats the connection with siberian tribes
    thanks
    We cannot really speak of Hungarians or Magyars before first millennium AD, but more about linguistic ancestors. Proto-Hungarian language according to most scholars separated from Ugric at around 1000 BC. The Heimat of the Proto-Magyars might've been between the Lower Ural Mountains and West Siberia. Here they had contacts with Iranian people, and changed their lifestyle from settled hunters to nomadic animal herders. They moved West of the Urals somewhere in the first millennium, and here they were conquered probably by West Turkic rulers, the Onogurs, who represented their warrior elite but who adopted the language of the Uralic Proto-Magyars. The Hungarians basically became a common people only after moving from the Uralic region towards the Carpathian Basin, which according to the newest archaeological evidence begun in the early 9th century. The multi-ethnic tribes that composed the Magyar conquerors (Uralic, Turkic, Iranian) finally mixed with each other and the populations found in the Carpathian Basin (Germanic, Slavic, Late Avar) in the 10th century, and thus the Modern Hungarian people were formed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    We cannot really speak of Hungarians or Magyars before first millennium AD, but more about linguistic ancestors. Proto-Hungarian language according to most scholars separated from Ugric at around 1000 BC. The Heimat of the Proto-Magyars might've been between the Lower Ural Mountains and West Siberia. Here they had contacts with Iranian people, and changed their lifestyle from settled hunters to nomadic animal herders. They moved West of the Urals somewhere in the first millennium, and here they were conquered probably by West Turkic rulers, the Onogurs, who represented their warrior elite but who adopted the language of the Uralic Proto-Magyars. The Hungarians basically became a common people only after moving from the Uralic region towards the Carpathian Basin, which according to the newest archaeological evidence begun in the early 9th century. The multi-ethnic tribes that composed the Magyar conquerors (Uralic, Turkic, Iranian) finally mixed with each other and the populations found in the Carpathian Basin (Germanic, Slavic, Late Avar) in the 10th century, and thus the Modern Hungarian people were formed.
    thats was really helpful .you know at some point i was so confused, i thought sarmatians ,avars and huns where close relatives who formed modern hungarians

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    Quote Originally Posted by kril View Post
    thats was really helpful .you know at some point i was so confused, i thought sarmatians ,avars and huns where close relatives who formed modern hungarians
    It's not completely unrealistic that any of these three populations have played a role in our formation, since we had early contacts with Iranian people (easily might've been certain branches of the Sarmathians or Scythians), Onogurs who were most likely part of the Hun confederation of people and we found Late Avars (probably Slavicized) in the Carpathian Basin. There is also no evidence that the Magyar conquerors have massacred the local population of the Carpathian Basin, but rather they have conquered them and mixed with them, or these locals have steadily adopted the language of the ruling Magyars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dunai View Post
    It's not completely unrealistic that any of these three populations have played a role in our formation, since we had early contacts with Iranian people (easily might've been certain branches of the Sarmathians or Scythians), Onogurs who were most likely part of the Hun confederation of people and we found Late Avars (probably Slavicized) in the Carpathian Basin. There is also no evidence that the Magyar conquerors have massacred the local population of the Carpathian Basin, but rather they have conquered them and mixed with them, or these locals have steadily adopted the language of the ruling Magyars.
    great !! im excited to know these things .one more thing i want to ask .can u write me a hungarian fairytale .or small story , like these grandmothers use to tell and old one ,a bedtime story maybe .not very popular .i m most interesting in local small tales or stories . or maybe a tale of some local hero or some person .thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by kril View Post
    great !! im excited to know these things .one more thing i want to ask .can u write me a hungarian fairytale .or small story , like these grandmothers use to tell and old one ,a bedtime story maybe .not very popular .i m most interesting in local small tales or stories . or maybe a tale of some local hero or some person .thanks
    This is the most important Old Magyar creation myth - The Legend of the Wondrous Stag. Many Hungarians still take this tale literally, and prefer this explanation to the creation of the Hungarian people than the official scientific stance:

    https://ztevetevans.wordpress.com/20...wondrous-stag/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    Whats the brother nations of hungarians (the closest nations to hungarians)
    Poles.

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    The average Hungarian is more into wine or beer? By the way, I have been to Hungary and your wine is quite good.
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