Europeans with Dark skin or WHG survivors

[Homie]

Are there any Europeans left who have kept their dark skin and mixed less with the Light skin allele carrier Anatolian Neolotic/Yamnaya like people?

This is what Europeans looked like before the Neolithic invasion:



I think the closest might be this German guy:

what lol? there is no european who dont have light skin alleles today. having tan or some thing is some thing else. and this is not «what all Europeans looked like before the Neolithic invasion(?)» either, this is only what hunter gatherers in west europe believed to look like 7000 years ago based on the snps at particular alleles



and white skin should be technically existant in european russia even in upper paleolithic

[Grab the Gauge]

Yes, around 10% of Orcadians and around 2-5% of Danes still carry the Blackman version of the SLC24A5 skin gene, which caused black skin in paleolithic people.



However the examples posted by OP, neither the artist's imaginary painting nor the moderately swarthy German male, are examples of this. SLC24A5 causes Black skin when sunlight isn't entirely avoided and skin bleaching creams aren't liberaly applied on an hourly basis. Even the unexposed skin of people who carry this gene is overabundant with sharp blue-black pigment and a complete absence of the horrid red and yellow blotchiness, which characterizes those who are deficient of it, regardless of skin "darkness". These genes are more about contrast, hue and saturation than actual darkness. They code for pure black, high-contrast, ultra-color, black and blue eumelanin pigment.

Tis is what WHG skin actually would have looked like:






Furthermore, OP is wrong when he says Yamnaya/Anatolian Neolithics were light. They were just as dark as everyone in western Europe.

[DarknessWin]

Scandinavians have a light tan skin , the most white skin in europe is in Great Britain people.

Also many Scandinavians tan very well in the summer and get bronze skin like Mediteraneans.
I dont get this especially when they are blond/blue eyed

[Grab the Gauge]

Scandinavians have a light tan skin , the most white skin in europe is in Great Britain people.

Also many Scandinavians tan very well in the summer and get bronze skin like Mediteraneans.
I dont get this especially when they are blond/blue eyed

Yes however if you look at the map I posted, a sizeable percentage of Orcadians carry the Blackman Version (Ala111) of SLC24A5. Anyone who has ever been to Scotland and Orkney knows about these people, they're not hard to spot. I even have some of them in my own family. Mediterraneans don't really have any black pigment on average, same goes for middle easterners. It's all red and yellow.

[Homie]

Native Europeans were Dark skinned, Light skinned Europeans are invaders from the Middle East.

[Grab the Gauge]

Native Europeans were Dark skinned, Light skinned Europeans are invaders from the Middle East.

This just isnt true, though.

[Homie]

This just isnt true, though.

WHG's should grab the balls of those Neolithics tough

[Amor Vincit Omnia]

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2015/...ved-white-skin

How Europeans evolved white skin
By Ann Gibbons Apr. 2, 2015

Yes, around 10% of Orcadians and around 2-5% of Danes still carry the Blackman version of the SLC24A5 skin gene, which caused black skin in paleolithic people.

is there even really a «blackman version» of SLC24A5? so there arent only skin lightening alleles (A2 and A5) but also particularly (extra) darkening alleles in addition (?) to absence or less derival of the two?? from where they inherit? because of out of africa or america or? you dont call SLC45A2 as that bm version right? because its also responsible for light skin pigmentation but not common in modern west eurasians i guess. though, derived freq of A2 for kyostenki is 2 %, for vestonitse 6 %, for karelia 67 %. but for mal'ta 0 %, that i read. idk about if africans or which africans can really have one of them. any chance the colors in the map represent some thing else? and any idea why andalusians and orcadians have it differently than others and how influential it would be?