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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanQueen View Post
    I think Chiellini's strange form of nose is due to the fact that he has broken it once, right?

    Yes, he got his nose broken once.


    My sister, only for chronicles and to be objective, Rosolino is half australian, Alex Schwazer is too tyroleans to be representative and the miss Spain from Canary Island is not representative of Spain since canarians are quite different genetically from Spain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by San Galgano View Post
    Hi regina.
    Yes, he got his nose broken once.


    My sister, only for chronicles and to be objective, Rosolino is half australian, Alex Schwazer is too tyroleans to be representative and the miss Spain from Canary Island is not representative of Spain since canarians are quite different genetically from Spain.
    I didn't know about Rosolino. About Sudtirol it is a region of Italy. If you don't include it with Italy you have to avoid also Sardinia from Italy and the Basques from Spain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanQueen View Post
    I didn't know about Rosolino. About Sudtirol it is a region of Italy. If you don't include it with Italy you have to avoid also Sardinia from Italy and the Basques from Spain.
    The basques are the core of Spain. All spanish people have some degree of basque blood through the "Reconquista", basques had a main role in the Spanish Empire, basques belong to Castille since many centuries ago and even the spanish language was born there.
    The two cases aren´t comparable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falkata View Post
    The basques are the core of Spain. All spanish people have some degree of basque blood through the "Reconquista", basques had a main role in the Spanish Empire, basques belong to Castille since many centuries ago and even the spanish language was born there.
    The two cases aren´t comparable.
    I knew Basques are authonoms and the fact that they made the reconquista is not a proof that they are genetically and phenotypically the core of Spain. Should Piemonteses and Normans be the core of Italy, becouse they made the Reconquista and the Reunification? I don't think so.
    About Basque languages, it is not an indo-european language, while Spanish is. I doubt a no-indoeuropean language is the core of an indo-european language. Spain is for the most a neolatin language, with some francesism, arabism and words from the old hiberic.
    Basque language is spoken by onlu 20-30% of people living in the Basque region, so more or less in the same percentage that German in spoken in Sudtirol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanQueen View Post
    I didn't know about Rosolino. About Sudtirol it is a region of Italy. If you don't include it with Italy you have to avoid also Sardinia from Italy and the Basques from Spain.
    Yeah but Sud Tyrol has been annexing later, even if many north italians are not so different from Alex Shwazer, especially venetes.
    Basque countries and Sardinia are part of Spain and Italy since ever.


    Anyway you can find blonde blue eyed germans look alike Spanish and Italians even between non Tyroleans and non Basques.
    Then Let's not create a case over nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by San Galgano View Post
    Yeah but Sud Tyrol has been annexing later, even if many north italians are not so different from Alex Shwazer, especially venetes.
    Basque countries and Sardinia are part of Spain and Italy since ever.
    It is not totally true. Sudtirol has always been an indipendent region. It has always been inhabitated by Germans and Italians.Then it shifted for a period in the County of Bressanone (Italian) then under the Austro-Ungarian kingdom (Austrian). They are a borden-area, but I consider them Italians, as well as Valle D'Aosta people.
    It is always the same point: are Cypriots greek or are they too Turkizised to be considered fully Greeks? And people from Epirus are Greeks or are they Aromanians and Albanians (so too much slavized to be Greek) ? I consider them Greeks, Basque Spaniards and Tirolers, Sardinians &CO. Italians.

    Ok, btw, more phenotypes please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanQueen View Post
    I knew Basques are authonoms and the fact that they made the reconquista is not a proof that they are genetically and phenotypically the core of Spain. Should Piemonteses and Normans be the core of Italy, becouse they made the Reconquista and the Reunification? I don't think so.
    About Basque languages, it is not an indo-european language, while Spanish is. I doubt a no-indoeuropean language is the core of an indo-european language. Spain is for the most a neolatin language, with some francesism, arabism and words from the old hiberic.
    Basque language is spoken by onlu 20-30% of people living in the Basque region, so more or less in the same percentage that German in spoken in Sudtirol.
    Reconquista and repopulation was made by northern iberians. Why do you think the differences between north-south in Iberia are weak compared with your country for example? The moors were killed or expelled and the empy lands were repopulated with christians from the north.
    Except for Canarians, there´s a big overlap between phenotypes and genes. Andalousians aren´t berbers or arabs, but mostly a mix of castillians, basques,galicians...
    Basques belong to Castille since more than 800 years and there are tons of famous basques in the history of Spain.
    And spanish language was born in that region.

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    Hehe in fact in Spain, the Basques not are the ones most often with blue eyes and light hair, despite the "myth"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RomanQueen View Post
    It is not totally true. Sudtirol has always been an indipendent region. It has always been inhabitated by Germans and Italians.Then it shifted for a period in the County of Bressanone (Italian) then under the Austro-Ungarian kingdom (Austrian). They are a borden-area, but I consider them Italians, as well as Valle D'Aosta people.
    I know the history of South Tyrol, but borders countries like that are not representative. Just Like the border France-Germany is not representative of the whole France and Germany or Austria and Slovenia.

    It is not a question of phenotypes. Venetes and Piedmonteses are even whiter that south Tyroleans sometimes, but i can't consider a name like Shwazer representative of Italy.

    This is an italian from Bolzano and as you can see he's not so different from many venetes but he has an italian name not german:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falkata View Post
    Reconquista and repopulation was made by northern iberians. Why do you think the differences between north-south in Iberia are weak compared with your country for example? The moors were killed or expelled and the empy lands were repopulated with christians from the north.
    Except for Canarians, there´s a big overlap between phenotypes and genes. Andalousians aren´t berbers or arabs, but mostly a mix of castillians, basques,galicians...
    Basques belong to Castille since more than 800 years and there are tons of famous basques in the history of Spain.
    And spanish language was born in that region.
    Moores were expelled also from Southern Italy by Normans, lol.
    Basque simply are not an indo-e. people, are a special case in Spain. Besides I think they are more related with Sardinians than with, I dunno, Celts? And as for the case of Sardinians, which are the darkest of Italy, I don't imagine Basque to be all blonde-blue eyed. It is not a question of blondeness, but of rapresentativeness. I think Spanish and Italians are not an omogeneous people, so when I say "post people of Spaniards/Italians" I am not referring only to Castillians and Latials but to all the peoples.

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