Italian phenotypes vs Spanish phenotypes

[Svanhild]

To be real they don't want to be annexed to Austria since their special status within Italy make them a lot richer that they would be inside Austria.

I'm afraid that's mere Italian illusion. I'm not going to argue about the forced italianisation of Südtirol by Mussolini and Tolomei again here. Yet I can understand why Italians want to keep Südtirol as the most rich region of Italy. Südtirol is the southern part of Tirol and Tirol is a part of Austria. Culturally, ethnically, linguistically and historically. No sense in debating about evident facts.

Lulz at the people that wait only the moment to bash Italians and spaniards.

I'm not going to bash any Italians and Spaniards and haven't done it. I remarked that Südtirol is no native part of Italy and I will keep doing so because unjustness stays unjustness.

[Arne]

It is Seppi indeed not Sepp.

Oh come on.. it´s not an usual italian name.
Seems it´s just only a italianized version of a German name.
Andreas is very Common here,even a Relative of mine which has died had this name.

[Jack B]

Oh come on.. it´s not a usual italian name.
Seems it´s just only a italianized version of a German name.
Andreas is very Common here,even a Relative of mine which has died had this name.

I know 2 guys named Andreas , common enough name.

[San Galgano]

Ehy guys let's not start with the usual german fixations that they are the master race and shit like that ok?
Otherwise i could post this tyrolean guy with german surname(Hubner)


and this italian with italian name from Emilia(Biondini).

[Falkata]

Moores were expelled also from Southern Italy by Normans, lol.
Basque simply are not an indo-e. people, are a special case in Spain. Besides I think they are more related with Sardinians than with, I dunno, Celts? And as for the case of Sardinians, which are the darkest of Italy, I don't imagine Basque to be all blonde-blue eyed. It is not a question of blondeness, but of rapresentativeness. I think Spanish and Italians are not an omogeneous people, so when I say "post people of Spaniards/Italians" I am not referring only to Castillians and Latials but to all the peoples.

I think you still dont understand what I´m impliying. Sardinians didn´t repopulate Italy, sardinianas didn´t play a main role in the Roman Empire and italian language wasn´t born in Sardinia.
And basques are more related with other spaniards than with sardinians, obviously. Spain is an old country and basques belong to it since ever , they aren´t a new exotic territory who was part of other nation or something like that.
Spaniards are more homogenous than italians. The big difference that you always suggest between north-south doesn exist here.

[Ibericus]

Moores were expelled also from Southern Italy by Normans, lol.
Basque simply are not an indo-e. people, are a special case in Spain. Besides I think they are more related with Sardinians than with, I dunno, Celts? And as for the case of Sardinians, which are the darkest of Italy, I don't imagine Basque to be all blonde-blue eyed. It is not a question of blondeness, but of rapresentativeness. I think Spanish and Italians are not an omogeneous people, so when I say "post people of Spaniards/Italians" I am not referring only to Castillians and Latials but to all the peoples.

Basques are not a special case in Spain. Basques look the same as other Spaniards. The Basques were expanded in all the Pyrenees, and all spaniards are related to them, since they are a branch of ancient Iberians. In Spain there is not a south-North difference like in Italy. What does it mean that they speak a pre-Indoeuropean ? Well , our ancestors the Iberians also spoke pre-Indoeuropean langauges related to Basque

[San Galgano]

I'm afraid that's mere Italian illusion. I'm not going to argue about the forced italianisation of Südtirol by Mussolini and Tolomei again here. Yet I can understand why Italians want to keep Südtirol as the most rich region of Italy. Südtirol is the southern part of Tirol and Tirol is a part of Austria. Culturally, ethnically, linguistically and historically. No sense in debating about evident facts.

Indeed it's better you don't argue about Sud Tyrol cause you probably don't know anything beyond your german ego. South Tyrol doesn't produce anything for Italy, and every income goes to enrich Tyroleans not Italy.
You don't even know the funds Italy gives to Tyrol.
The richest italian regions are Lombardy, Piedmont, Veneto and Emilia Romagna, not Tyrol for sure which in terms of productivity is not even considered in Italy.
As for the culture i could agree only to a certain extent since borders are usually similar even if they speak different languages, just Like Germany border with Poland and so on.

[San Galgano]

Oh come on.. it´s not a usual italian name.
Seems it´s just only a italianized version of a German name.
Andreas is very Common here,even a Relative of mine which has died had this name.

Names are relatives. Not all the germans whos names are Mark are descendant of Marcus Aurelius.

[Tyrrhenoi]

Veneto and Friuli have a strong influx from Slovenja and Austria as well, Valle D'Aosta, Piemonte and Liguria a strong influx from France.

LoL I am a Genovese - and we fucking hate the french -what kind of influx are you talking about? - I hope you don't mean cultural, because the Liguri are more culturaly related to the English -

About alto-adige (S-Tirol) - It is Italian soil, we should not dramatize the story about the ?unhappy? austrian population there - they have an autonomous state and self-governance and they are quite happy .

I always need to mention Lilly Gruber - a famous sud-tiroler - she is the example of germanic-italian collaboration and friendship!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilli_Gruber

It was a Spanish descendant (Diaz) who lead Italy to victory against Austria - he won Sud-Tirol- why don't we just blaim the Spanish for this mess!

[Foxy]

Ehy guys let's not start with the usual german fixations that they are the master race and shit like that ok?

They (Celti and Svanhild) have never said such a thing, besides I have controlled on www.cognomiitaliani.com : Seppi is a typical South Tiroler surname, but is from the Italian name "Giuseppe" (Seppe), not from Sepp, unles Sepp is from Joseph and Seppi from Giuseppe. Seppi has the same diffusion also in Trentino, where people are Italian.

Ps: I have always fited good with Germans, sometime more with them than with Italians/Spaniards. So I understand their "intromission". I think we would have done the name with a Croatian with an Italian surname. The point is that in Trentino there are also many Italians and population is pretty mixed (last person I saw in Trentino when I was going to cross the border with Austria had black hair and eyes, lol).