Are Finns, Scandinavians?

[Wyn]

What a silly thing to say after arguing that Estonians aren't Nordic. You could at least have provided the definition of Scandinavian you use to come to this "may be" answer.

Finns are not Scandinavian in any sense of the word. Not in the geographic and not in the ethnic.

My answer isn't actually maybe. I don't consider them Scandinavian (I give a shit? ). I was saying that sometimes they're included and sometimes they're not. But, looking back at the post, it is easy to draw the conclusion from it that you did (i.e. that I thought "maybe").

[The Ripper]

My answer isn't actually maybe. I don't consider them Scandinavian (I give a shit? ). I was saying that sometimes they're included and sometimes they're not. But, looking back at the post, it is easy to draw the conclusion from it that you did (i.e. that I thought "maybe").

My point was that you're wonderfully ambivalent regarding the issue, at least when comparing it to your response of Estonia's purposed Nordicness, which was a very definite "no". Then again, it might be due to what we in the scientific community refer to as the Karl-effect

[Wyn]

My point was that you're wonderfully ambivalent regarding the issue, at least when comparing it to your response of Estonia's purposed Nordicness, which was a very definite "no".

And you can read my point in the last post. What I said in my post was that sometimes they're considered Sc'n and sometimes they're not. In fact I'd say my posts regarding Estonia and in this thread are consistent, in that my position regarding the non-Nordicity of Estonia is based on that it is not in the popular definition of the word considered Nordic, and in this thread, I said that they are sometimes defined as Sc'n and sometimes not. I see that as consistency - recognising the popular definitions of the words in both cases.

Then again, it might be due to what we in the scientific community refer to as the Karl-effect

I don't care enough about Finland/Scandinavia/Estonia/Nordicity for my psyche to develop the dreaded Karl-effect.

[Loki]

Then what the hell is "nordic"? Now you're just encouraging Karl.

In modern usage, a term to encompass Scandinavians and Finns in a geographical sense. It's not related to (sub) race or linguistics. However it can be used in a racial sense, which I am not referring to. In a racial sense Nordic people can be found in abundance in countries like Germany, Netherlands and England too (and Estonia; Latvia for that matter ).

[Äike]

In a racial sense Nordic people can be found in abundance in countries like Germany, Netherlands and England too (and Estonia; Latvia for that matter ).

If by Nordic you mean Nordid. Then Nordic people are a minority even in Sweden.

[Loki]

If by Nordic you mean Nordid.

Yes.

Then Nordic people are a minority even in Sweden.

Depends how fine you want to cut your definition of "Nordid". There are different views - including narrower, more specific, and wider and more encompassing of related types beside the core.

[Äike]

Yes.



Depends how fine you want to cut your definition of "Nordid". There are different views - including narrower, more specific, and wider and more encompassing of related types beside the core.

What related types are you talking about? Upper Paleolithic/Cro-Magnon ones?

[Loki]

What related types are you talking about? Upper Paleolithic/Cro-Magnon ones?

There is no clear distinction in modern populations from any of these (they're all mixed up families, mostly). The majority of real people are not textbook-types of any subrace.

[Megrez]

Is Pallantides, Nordic?

[Äike]

Is Pallantides, Nordic?

Culturally, yes. All Norwegians are Nordic, it doesn't matter how they look like.