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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen B View Post
    Ι'm an engineer.
    And while I'm not paid less (at the moment anyway), I'm facing discrimination because of my gender in my profession.
    I'd say men are discriminated more often in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    Can you elaborate?
    E.g 1 :
    Calling to ask a technical question.listening to a female answering "I would like a technician'' . '' I'm a technician''. '' I would like to speak with the guy [x]''. '' Guy [x] is on vacation/project/meeting atm, tell me how can I help you''. '' Leave it till he comes back , you can't help me ''.
    E.g 2 : 5 Engineers giving ideas/feeback for a project, NEVER pay attention to women's idea ~ even if -at the end - it was proved to be the best approach.
    E.g 3: Arriving on spot (Factory f.e.). ''What are YOU doing here''? ''You sure''?

    The company I'm working isn't acting that way. We are all equal, and we are paid equal for our diplomas, seniority,etc.
    But people facing us , there, there IS discrimination.

    The ''positive'' is that they are mainly people of older generation. I mean, I rarely face this from people my age or from people below 45y.o.

    Quote Originally Posted by Didriksson View Post
    They're also against family values with all the crap they promote... loose women, who want to whore around and pretend to be fighting for all women. I never asked them to fight for my rights... I'm totally comfortable with my position in the society and I've never felt discriminated... ever, just because I'm a female. They're just idiots...
    These aren't real feminists. Those are the so-called feminazis, who ruined the whole idea of REAL feminism, which is about equality.
    Quote Originally Posted by peaceandfriendship View Post
    BTW - you having a picture of Pyrrhus as your avatar is the Albanian equivalent of Michael Jackson bleaching his skin white.

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    Honestly B, I think a lot of those things are in your head and your own attitude... just don't give a shit. You already expected this kind of attitude before and that is why it keeps happening to you... I think I could remember some situation of my own life where I felt discriminated, but there are always two sides to every story... instead of thinking of possible discrimination, you should think of other factors that might have caused the issue, for example, maybe you did something wrong? Maybe I was wrong? Maybe I'm inexperienced and need to grow more. I personally don't even allow the thought of possible discrimination to crawl into my head... it's nonexistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Annie999 View Post
    Males are preferred over women in almost all departments, even when there is no real advantage of one gender over the other (like physical strength).
    Women might get pregnant and have to take care of kids, yes, but if anything it's a double job for them (and a quite important one for our countrys future sake) that double job makes up for whatever absences they might have, hence they should be paid equally.

    Sexism is installed in society, you will see that many women prefer male attorneys, doctors or pilots than females, it's just a reflection of how things are. Males dominate the jobs industry that's why im OK with help from the government to give positions to women, disabled, blacks, etc. Otherwise they will get last in line. And while it's true a woman/black/disabled might get a job instead of a better qualified white male, that will make up for the thousand times it happens the other way around. It's a way to try to get things a bit even.
    About female doctors. Less than 100 years ago that was very unusual and 'controversial' still. I remember having read an article about the one and only female doctor of the Netherlands in the 1920s. Long ago though, so I only know this.
    I'm not a gender segregationist prude, but I would for one assume most women would prefer a female gynaecologist, right? No idea. As a male I didn't mind medical exams by a female doctor or nurse and something tells me women here never made a big deal out of getting checked by a male doctor neither. It's part of our upbringing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen B View Post
    Ι'm an engineer.
    And while I'm not paid less (at the moment anyway), I'm facing discrimination because of my gender in my profession.
    Boo hoo.

    What are you going to do about it?

    Legally you're equal. There's nothing more you can do, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didriksson View Post
    Honestly B, I think a lot of those things are in your head and your own attitude... just don't give a shit. You already expected this kind of attitude before and that is why it keeps happening to you... I think I could remember some situation of my own life where I felt discriminated, but there are always two sides to every story... instead of thinking of possible discrimination, you should think of other factors that might have caused the issue, for example, maybe you did something wrong? Maybe I was wrong? Maybe I'm inexperienced and need to grow more. I personally don't even allow the thought of possible discrimination to crawl into my head... it's nonexistent.
    What's my wrong ?
    Answering a damn telephone? Actually visiting a factory facing people that you don't even know, and instead of greeting you, asking you what you are doing here? Seriously?

    I didn't say that it happens everyday , and I did specified that this is rare in my generation, so obviously it is something I notice that has a pattern.

    I even had a teacher in Uni, where in his first class , he saw 2 females participating and said '' What are you doing here? Go cook a fasolada or something (Bean soup)''.
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    BTW - you having a picture of Pyrrhus as your avatar is the Albanian equivalent of Michael Jackson bleaching his skin white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen B View Post
    Ι'm an engineer.
    And while I'm not paid less (at the moment anyway), I'm facing discrimination because of my gender in my profession.
    It is so sexy to see a hot woman working with the equipment, designing. Yummy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen B View Post
    Go cook a fasolada or something (Bean soup)''.
    Is bean called "fasola" in Greek?

    Sorry for offtopic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezprym View Post
    Is bean called "fasola" in Greek?
    Sorry for offtopic.
    Fasoli - bean.
    Quote Originally Posted by peaceandfriendship View Post
    BTW - you having a picture of Pyrrhus as your avatar is the Albanian equivalent of Michael Jackson bleaching his skin white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen B View Post
    What's my wrong ?
    Answering a damn telephone? Actually visiting a factory facing people that you don't even know, and instead of greeting you, asking you what you are doing here? Seriously?

    I didn't say that it happens everyday , and I did specified that this is rare in my generation, so obviously it is something I notice that has a pattern.

    I even had a teacher in Uni, where in his first class , he saw 2 females participating and said '' What are you doing here? Go cook a fasolada or something (Bean soup)''.
    Okay but I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.

    If you are legally equal then what more is there to do?

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