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    Hello and Salam Alekyum to everyone...


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    I was surfing the internet today and i found this interesting forum .. i was interested in one topic called (http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...Ottoman-Empire)

    let me debate what was mentioned ...

    First of All Muhammed ali ya was Albanian yet he was able to rule Egypt for some reasons i shall mention now..
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    Muhammed Ali came to Egypt on the lead of albanian and aranut troops (by the command of the Ottman caliphe) to fight the french occupiers side by side to the Egyptians , the revolution succeeded and french were kicked out, Khorshed pasha ruled Egypt in 1804 (who was caucasian by the way) and was born to father (who was christian priest and turned later to Islam)
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    he was also one of the guards to Sultan (muhammed the second).. during his rule which lasted nearly 1 year , corruption spread through Egypt , he asked the Sultan to take back the albanian troops back to IStanbul (because he was suspicous of Ali intentions ) yet this suggestion was refused when the Egyptian scientists and people back him up , later the Sultan sent to Khorshed some troops called (dolah) which did more corruption and theft , so the revolution started across Egypt and people choosed ali to be (wali on Egypt) with 1 condition , to be fair and rule with justice , Ali at first refused (to remove doubts about him that he wants the reign) later he approved and Khorshed was sent back to Serbia to stop a revolution led by karadorda petrovic and he succeeded to stop the revolution after he got back Belgrade , later he was crowned as a ruler over Bosnia and stopped the second serb revolution led by milos abronovic and died at 1822.
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    now let's speak about his ARMY

    Muhammed Ali saw that his current troops aren't dependable for his new ambitions so he tried to establish a new Army from the local People of Egypt , Muhammed Ali has the opportunity to witness how modern militaries fight when he fought the french in (Al-Rhmanya) battle so he insisted to replace the old ablanian troops with a new Army.

    how he did that?

    after the year 1815 , Napolean wars had stopped and many of his officers left the army so he brought some of them to train his new army , one of the french officers called (suliman pasha the french) ( he turned the Islam).

    Suliman Pasha spent much effort to establish this new military with the new tactics , so he ordered at 21 august 1821 to establish Aswan Military school (where many officers were trained to lead the Army) , the school consisted at first by 2000 person from mamluks and Egyptian and the education was 3 years .

    the school was later moved from Aswan to Asna to akhmem to beni odie to athr el nabie.

    later many french officer joined , from them i shall mention ( general boye and colonel Jodan).

    Recruitment:

    year 1823 came and the first six aoort consisted in the Egyptian Army and the 2000 officer got
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    each aoort = 800 soldier.

    Recruitment policy continued till the army reached 30 aoort...

    later Ali took the army to his wars which began with Hijaz battles in saudia (1826) then to Greece and later in Syria and conquering ottoman lands

    http://www.faroukmisr.net/mohamed_ali.htm

    http://www.marefa.org/index.php/%D8%...B9%D9%84%D9%8A

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    welcome, hope you're not a troll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shah-Jehan View Post
    welcome, hope you're not a troll.
    thanks , nah .. just an Egyptian passing by.

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    A spectre is haunting TA - The spectre of Ballaban. Lol anyway this is an important subject and thank you for starting this, epic betrayal story. Epic reason showing failure of multiculturalism. This is Egyptian Mehmed Ali thing is a good example why Türks should stick more with each other and other Türkic peoples and avoid Balkan plagues, why neo-Ottomanism and multiculturalism or Akp's new Federal system trial are wrong, why Türks should build something for themselves only and not with Balkanians, Menas and Caucasians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witness View Post
    A spectre is haunting TA - The spectre of Ballaban. Lol anyway this is an important subject and thank you for starting this, epic betrayal story. Epic reason showing failure of multiculturalism. This is Egyptian Mehmed Ali thing is a good example why Türks should stick more with each other and other Türkic peoples and avoid Balkan plagues, why neo-Ottomanism and multiculturalism or Akp's new Federal system trial are wrong, why Türks should build something for themselves only and not with Balkanians, Menas and Caucasians.
    I started this because many claim it was albanian or asian army who conquered parts of turkey and stopped the greek revolution.

    IT WAS EGYPTIAN ARMY , EGYPTIAN MEN .

    that's all.

    you are welcome.

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    ummi dunya

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    Egyptian, can I ask you a question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by YashiroNanakase View Post
    ummi dunya
    Indeed Ummi Dunya , thank you , Gracias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shah-Jehan View Post
    Egyptian, can I ask you a question?
    feel free to ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by Egyptian View Post
    feel free to ask
    Why did the Egyptian army, as well as its Arab allies lose so badly to Israel in 1948 and 1967?

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