Capitalism/Neo-Conservativism/Neo-Liberalism vs. Socialism or Democratic Socialism

[Mortimer]

Do you think Democratic Socialism will always fail and Capitalism is always better or you think there is a inbetween position. I think positive of democratic socialism is welfare for the broad masses. There really arent any homeless in Austria like in America, there arent people who need to beg for donations to get a life important surgery etc. But the negative thing is the mass immigration which is huge cost, but I think in a small homogenous country it can work, where also the citizens are law abiding and disciplined and hard working but if there are many who have mentality they dont want to work but to leech it can get difficult. Also I think capitalism is based on one owns gaining of profit and aggravation of capital, but you cant eat capital, and there needs to be a limit, there needs to be other values driving our societies except ones own profit. so there needs to be some regulations in my opinion. Otherwise I support right to private property etc. and right to start and run a business etc . but with some regulations. Im not communist, Im democratic socialist.

[Oneeye]

Fuck rampant welfare.


Our homeless have mental issues and are often veterans that are not receiving adequate care from Uncle Sam, like they were promised.


And capitalistic societies, like the US, are also the most privately charitable.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

You aren't a Democratic Socialist, you are a Social-Democrat. There is a difference.

Unless you want workers to own the means of production! Obviously not. You said you think it is okay for someone to own a business - this is not Democratic Socialism. This is Social Democracy (basically Capitalism with a few Socialistic things, like welfare state).

Democratic Socialism would be the workers owning the means of production. Basically no more Capitalism.

Communism is a bit different. In truth it is supposed to be a democratic system. Unlike Socialism, however, more than just the workers owning the means of production. Communists also want to abolish currency. Communism is basically harder to achieve and more utopianist.

Anyways, you are probably confusing Communism with Stalinism. Stalinism is basically just dictatorship with cult of personality and little to do with economics.

Hopefully you can refer to this post if you want to know the difference between Social-Demoracy, Democratic Socialism, Communism & Stalinism. I am happy to educate. I have studied politics for a long time.

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

For me myself? I consider myself closest to Social Democrat.

[Mortimer]

Fuck rampant welfare.


Our homeless have mental issues and are often veterans that are not receiving adequate care from Uncle Sam, like they were promised.


And capitalistic societies, like the US, are also the most privately charitable.

welfare or not, but even neo-liberals admitted that capitalism has limits http://fortune.com/2016/06/03/imf-ne...alism-failing/

[Dr. Robotnik the Subbotnik]

I should say that I describe myself as a Social Democrat only in an economic sense. I am conservative on Immigration. I am more of that kind of Populist type that is emerging in the Western world now. Like Nationalistic Social-Democrats. Economically and Socially quite Liberal but more Populist on Immigration and also with Trade. Trump-type stuff.

[Oneeye]

welfare or not, but even neo-liberals admitted that capitalism has limits http://fortune.com/2016/06/03/imf-ne...alism-failing/

You're talking about free market not capitalism, per say. Capitalism is private ownership and running of production rather than government ran. Trump's election is an indictment of the working classes' feelings towards (global) free trade.

[Colonel Frank Grimes]

The hot chick made $32.67 in an hour.



All together the three of them made $56 in an hour.