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    Quote Originally Posted by Valtaves View Post
    Obviously not all of Europe was Sardinian like before Rietards came. Some Europeans have added WHG ancestry.
    This is Lithuania around 900 - 500 B.C:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-East-European 73.93
    2 Indo-Iranian 9.04
    3 North-European-Mesolithic 7
    4 Mesoamerican 4.68
    5 North-Siberean 3.76
    6 Austronesian 1.6

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Estonian (derived) 14.95
    2 Latvian (derived) 15.68
    3 Lithuanian (derived) 16.78
    4 Belarusian (derived) 17.01
    5 Russian (derived) 17.42
    6 Moldavian (derived) 17.65
    7 Russian_North (derived) 18.04
    8 Lithuanian_V (derived) 18.24
    9 Russian_Center (derived) 18.47
    10 Mordovian (derived) 19.39
    11 Russian_V (derived) 19.81
    12 Polish (derived) 20.31
    13 Russian_South (derived) 20.72
    14 Russian_cossack (derived) 20.97
    15 Ukrainian-East (derived) 21.36
    16 Ukrainian (derived) 21.5
    17 Vepsa (derived) 21.95
    18 Polish_V (derived) 22.12
    19 Karelian (derived) 23.2
    20 Belarusian_V (derived) 23.27

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 91.3% Latvian (derived) + 8.7% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 11.82
    2 90.4% Latvian (derived) + 9.6% Kalash (derived) @ 11.93
    3 90.4% Lithuanian (derived) + 9.6% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 12.26
    4 89.4% Lithuanian (derived) + 10.6% Kalash (derived) @ 12.31
    5 92.9% Estonian (derived) + 7.1% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 12.47

    When I looked on the spreadsheet, the average Lithuanian has 80% North East European, could be an admixed Balto-Slavic individual, since the sample has some CHG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoran View Post
    This is Lithuania around 900 - 500 B.C:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North-East-European 73.93
    2 Indo-Iranian 9.04
    3 North-European-Mesolithic 7
    4 Mesoamerican 4.68
    5 North-Siberean 3.76
    6 Austronesian 1.6

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Estonian (derived) 14.95
    2 Latvian (derived) 15.68
    3 Lithuanian (derived) 16.78
    4 Belarusian (derived) 17.01
    5 Russian (derived) 17.42
    6 Moldavian (derived) 17.65
    7 Russian_North (derived) 18.04
    8 Lithuanian_V (derived) 18.24
    9 Russian_Center (derived) 18.47
    10 Mordovian (derived) 19.39
    11 Russian_V (derived) 19.81
    12 Polish (derived) 20.31
    13 Russian_South (derived) 20.72
    14 Russian_cossack (derived) 20.97
    15 Ukrainian-East (derived) 21.36
    16 Ukrainian (derived) 21.5
    17 Vepsa (derived) 21.95
    18 Polish_V (derived) 22.12
    19 Karelian (derived) 23.2
    20 Belarusian_V (derived) 23.27

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 91.3% Latvian (derived) + 8.7% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 11.82
    2 90.4% Latvian (derived) + 9.6% Kalash (derived) @ 11.93
    3 90.4% Lithuanian (derived) + 9.6% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 12.26
    4 89.4% Lithuanian (derived) + 10.6% Kalash (derived) @ 12.31
    5 92.9% Estonian (derived) + 7.1% Proto-Indo-Iranian (ancestral) @ 12.47

    When I looked on the spreadsheet, the average Lithuanian has 80% North East European, could be an admixed Balto-Slavic individual, since the sample has some CHG.
    Wtf is this result? It looks very strange. Anyway to me that result suggest that modern Lithuanian have added WHG compared to that, remember it's Balt+some kind of small Central Asian (ANE rich) component.
    Anyway at that time scale that guy should be IE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valtaves View Post
    Wtf is this result? It looks very strange. Anyway to me that result suggest that modern Lithuanian have added WHG compared to that, remember it's Balt+some kind of small Central Asian (ANE rich) component.
    Anyway at that time scale that guy should be IE
    Could be a Balto-Slavic individual with native Baltic admixture. Its not strange anyway, its not a native Baltic individual judging from the CHG admixture.

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    No i kiedy będzie ciąg dalszy?

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    however, seems like they were speaking Basque language regarding R1b-v88, which is similar to sumerian

    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...t=#post4086603
    we know very little about pre-Roman language, but for many academics the similiarities between Sardinian and Basque DNA suggest an ancient connection with Basques, this hypothesis is somewhat corroborated by the study of Sardinian place names, in the central area of Sardinia, the area with less external influences, about 30-40% of place names have no meaning in Latin or in modern Sardinian, but they make perfectly sense if compared to Basque language.

    Moreover according to ancient fonts Sardinians were divided in 3 main ethnicities, and perhaps they spoke 3 different languages, see map below

    According to the hypothesis, the Balares (in Latin) could be related with the megalithic civilization of the Baleares islands, this could be the connection with the Iberian peninsula and with Basques, this people was there before the famous Sardinian Nuragic civilization, the ancient Corsicans instead were perhaps related with Etruscans or ancient Ligurians, both non-IE peoples, the Etruscans were most likely related with the famous Sea Peoples/Pelasgians mentioned by ancient Egyptians, the Iolei (the name is taken by Greek mythology, according to which were related to Iolao brother of Herakles, that according to mythology founded cities and temples in Sardinia), instead we now from Egyptian or Phoenician fonts, that they were named Shardan or Sherdan, other name mentioned among the famous Sea Peoples, and they most likely came from Crete or from the Aegean area, they were perhaps Pelasgians.
    This may explain also why Sardinian look can be very heterogeneous if you move from a region of Sardinia to another, with more Mediterranean phenotypes in the south, and less in the north and in the central areas, where there is a majority of light skin phenotypes
    “Prehistorically, the Sumerians were not aboriginal to Mesopotamia. Their native hearth is unknown. Speaking an agglutinative tongue showing affinities, on one hand, with the Uralo-Altaic languages (Balto-Finnish, Hungarian, Volgaic, Uralien, Samoyuedic, Turkish, Mongolian, and Eskimo) and, on the other hand, with the Dravidian tounges of India, the Pelasgian of pre-Homeric Greece, Georgian of the Caucasus, and Basque of the Pyrenes, they had arrived apparently c.3500 B.C. to find the river lands already accupied by an advanced Neolithic, farming and cattle-raising population known to science as the Ubaidian (also, Proto-Euphratean), [...].” (Joseph Campbell, The Mythic Dimension, New World Library, 2008, p.122)"

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    I may be a degenerate but I'm still an R1 and as such R1ethel must tolerate me.

    We've discussed it before, we're family.

    R1 Tribalism is a beautiful thing. It transcends degeneracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strasser-ue View Post
    I may be a degenerate but I'm still an R1 and as such R1ethel must tolerate me.

    We've discussed it before, we're family.

    R1 Tribalism is a beautiful thing. It transcends degeneracy.

    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by vandaal View Post
    lol
    When a Tribalism and love for family and blood is so strong that it breaks the shackles of social issues and division you know we are a force to be reckoned with. Above all, blood!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strasser-ue View Post
    I may be a degenerate but I'm still an R1 and as such R1ethel
    Yes, of course.

    must tolerate me.
    As R1 - yes, but it does not change the thing,
    that for your degeneracy we will surely stone you.

    We've discussed it before, we're family.
    Yes.

    R1 Tribalism is a beautiful thing.
    Yes.

    It transcends degeneracy.
    Not relevant.

    This, that we are in one tribe, cannot change the fact that
    you are discusting as long as you stay in your degeneracy,
    and the whole R1 tribe has an obligation to burn you alive.
    Last edited by Rethel; 11-27-2016 at 05:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Yes, of course.



    As R1 - yes, but it does not change the thing,
    that for your degeneracy we will not stone you.



    Yes.



    Yes.



    Not relevant.

    This, that we are in one tribe, cannot change the fact that
    you are discusting as long as you stay in your degeneracy,
    and the whole R1 tribe has an obligation to burn you alive.

    ??

    https://youtu.be/cWllQeGTaaE?t=9m9s

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