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    Because I've been bored recently I compiled data on all the people whose data I share with on 23andme. This includes 175 fully Ashkenazi Jews, and 6 half-Ashkenazi Jews who had their parents' data so I could know which half was which, and therefore use their YDNA/MTDNA, and only MTDNA/YDNA which I know comes from 100% Ashkenazi lines. Yes, I know I'm using out-of-date nomenclature for some of the clades. Data below:

    YDNA (n=122)

    Macroclade Clade Number Percentage
    J 44 36.1%
    J2 26 21.3%
    J2a 21 17.2%
    J2a1b1 11 9.0%
    J2a1b* 10 8.2%
    J2* 3 2.5%
    J2b 2 1.6%
    J1 18 14.8%
    J1e 15 12.3%
    J1* 3 2.5%
    E1b1b1 32 26.2%
    E1b1b1c 17 13.9%
    E1b1b1c1 15 12.3%
    E1b1b1c1* 9 7.4%
    E1b1b1c1a 6 4.9%
    E1b1b1c* 2 1.6%
    E1b1b1* 8 6.6%
    E1b1b1a 7 5.7%
    E1b1b1a* 6 4.9%
    E1b1b1a2 1 0.8%
    R 26 21.3%
    R1 22 18.0%
    R1a1a 12 9.8%
    R1b1b2 10 8.2%
    R1b1b2a 8 6.6%
    R1b1b2a1a 7 5.7%
    R1b1b2a1a1d1 5 4.1%
    R1b1b2a1a2f 1 0.8%
    R1b1b2a1a* 1 0.8%
    R1b1b2a* 1 0.8%
    R1b1b2* 2 1.6%
    R2 4 3.3%
    G 7 5.7%
    G2 5 4.1%
    G2c 3 2.5%
    G2a 2 1.6%
    G1 2 1.6%
    T 7 5.7%
    Q1b 4 3.3%
    I2 2 1.6%
    I2a2b 1 0.8%
    I2b1 1 0.8%

    Maternal clades (n=176)

    Macroclade Clade Frequency Percentage
    UK 80 45.45%
    K 68 38.7%
    K1a 62 35.2%
    K1a1b 43 24.4%
    K1a1b1a 42 23.9%
    K1a1b* 1 0.6%
    K1a9 14 8.0%
    K1a* 6 3.4%
    K1a7'8 1 0.6%
    H 42 23.9%
    H1 9 5.1%
    H1* 4 2.3%
    H1e 4 2.3%
    H1o 1 0.6%
    H5 8 4.5%
    H5a 6 3.4%
    H5* 1 0.6%
    H5'36 1 0.6%
    HV 7 4.0%
    HV5 5 2.8%
    HV1b2 2 1.1%
    H11 5 2.8%
    H11* 4 2.3%
    H11a 1 0.6%
    H7 4 2.3%
    H* 3 1.7%
    H6a1 3 1.7%
    H6a1* 2 1.1%
    H6a1b 1 0.6%
    H3 2 1.1%
    H26 1 0.6%
    N1b2 15 8.5%
    J1 13 7.4%
    J1c 10 5.7%
    J1c1 5 2.8%
    J1c* 4 2.3%
    J1c7a 1 0.6%
    J1b1a 3 1.7%
    U 12 6.8%
    U7 4 2.3%
    U3a1 3 1.7%
    U5b1 2 1.1%
    U5b1b1 1 0.6%
    U5b1e 1 0.6%
    U1a3 1 0.6%
    U4a3 1 0.6%
    U6a7 1 0.6%
    W 7 4.0%
    W3 6 3.4%
    W3* 3 1.7%
    W3a 3 1.7%
    W1 1 0.6%
    R0a 5 2.8%
    R0a2 4 2.3%
    R0a* 1 0.6%
    T 4 2.3%
    T1 3 1.7%
    T1a1 2 1.1%
    T1* 1 0.6%
    T2b 1 0.6%
    I1 3 1.7%
    M33c 2 1.1%
    V7 2 1.1%
    V7* 1 0.6%
    V7a 1 0.6%
    X2b 1 0.6%
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    R2 is surprising for me.
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    that doesnt mean that you are necessarily askhenazi if you have on of those haplogroups . I dont think you claimed this but just wanted to say it because my haplogroup is listed there too lel

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    Quote Originally Posted by All-In View Post
    that doesnt mean that you are necessarily askhenazi if you have on of those haplogroups . I dont think you claimed this but just wanted to say it because my haplogroup is listed there too lel
    Yeah of course not that would be absurd. All of these haplogroups are shared by other groups including other Jews, other Levantines and some others too (particularly those European-style R-clades).
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    Do Jews have a "cultural assimilation" system similar to other ethnic groups (Hebraization or whatever)? e.g. can a non-Jewish man become Jew and Jewish community accept him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Nerd View Post
    Do Jews have a "cultural assimilation" system similar to other ethnic groups (Hebraization or whatever)? e.g. can a non-Jewish man become Jew and Jewish community accept him?
    Yes, it's called conversion and it usually takes 4 to 5 years of intense study.
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    I thought that conversion is only possible when a Jew (man/woman) marry a non-Jew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Nerd View Post
    I thought that conversion is only possible when a Jew (man/woman) marry a non-Jew.
    No, it's always a possibility.
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    It is surely fine amusement, but
    nothing senseable comes from it.

    Lo,
    where is your mt coming from and
    where are highest concentrations
    now, and what is the shortest age
    distance from others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    It is surely fine amusement, but
    nothing senseable comes from it.

    Lo,
    where is your mt coming from and
    where are highest concentrations
    now, and what is the shortest age
    distance from others?
    personally, my mtdna comes from India in the 19th century, before that, most likely Iraq. Highest concentrations are amongst the Ashkenazi though. Shortest age distance from what?
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