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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Why no I-M253, despite Jews living in Germany for millenia?
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    Mainly because Jews didn't mix much in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Then where did the R1b come from?
    From the Middle East, though some is L51 which is clearly European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamlet View Post
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    Mainly because Jews didn't mix much in Europe.
    Is your direct paternal line Jewish?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    No how did Jews get it if it's Western European?
    By converting IEs.
    Since 750 BC they lived in IE society,
    so they had a plenty of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Is your direct paternal line Jewish?
    Yup, I'm fully Jewish (except from way back when that I1 entered)

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    Ignore Rethel btw, he's an idiot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    Is your direct paternal line Jewish?
    If you're interested, Ashkenazi I1 entered the Jewish bloodline about 1000 years ago, which coincides with the Rhineland massacres (probably a riled-up peasant as part of the People's Crusade raped a Jewess):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhineland_massacres

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Martnen View Post
    No how did Jews get it if it's Western European?
    R1b-V88 isn't really European.

    There are a few minor R1b European lineages in Jews from the little mixing that did occur.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longbowman View Post
    R1b-V88 isn't really European.

    There are a few minor R1b European lineages in Jews from the little mixing that did occur.
    Most Jewish R1b is M269, but not L51. Also, the only relevant "Goy" R1b is some U152 and the "Ivanhoe" U106 (I think about 6% of AJs have this Y DNA).

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    Also, almost all the non-Jewish Ashkenazi Y DNA is from mixing that took place among Sephardim (who later mixed with Ashkenazim)

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