Ashkenazi haplogroups

[Longbowman]

Conclusions are important.
If you drive a nail with a stone, insteed with hammer,
the important thing is, that he is drived, not, with what.

Well he wasn't entirely correct. For instance M33c may be of Asian origin but it was present in Syria

U3, K1a, N1b, X2, R0a, T1a, T2b, W1, H, H5, J1 and J1c are all known from the ancient Middle East.

Of course, X2, T1a, T2b, J1c, K1a, H, H1, HV, even U3 etc. are also known from Europe.

He claimed all of the Ashkenazi clades were European, it is likely that not all were. Certainly the U5, U4 and V groups are European in origin though. K1a1b is most likely European (known from ancient finds in Spain 6,000 years ago, at least four separate individuals), N1b2 is most likely Middle Eastern, etc.

[Pahli]

As I said him once: Eastern Iraq

Does not fit with ancient regions Polak, there was no Iraq back then, Iraq stops stops at the foot of the Zagros mountains.

[Longbowman]

R1b1b2a1a1d1= R1b-L47 which is a subclade of R1b-L48. I am convinced these Ashkenazi guys are part of the ''Ivanhoe'' cluster.

A handful of clades are obvious recent-ish converts, yes. All the people who were positive for R1b L47 had different surnames, too.

On the other hand, most of the E3b and J seems to be Near Eastern.

[LoLeL]

I remember a R2 iranian jew in internet foruns.

Seems it exists among Indian Jews. I guess J* is the dominant haplogroup among Iranian/Persian Jews. Wrong?

[Rethel]

Does not fit with ancient regions Polak, there was no Iraq back then.

I know, but it is J1-occupational-name.
If you prefer be a Serf of Medes, nameless subject of Aryans - be my guest

I wanted the best for you, and you are angry. Senseless.

[Rethel]

Well he wasn't entirely correct. For instance M33c may be of Asian origin but it was present in Syria

U3, K1a, N1b, X2, R0a, T1a, T2b, W1, H, H5, J1 and J1c are all known from the ancient Middle East.

Of course, X2, T1a, T2b, J1c, K1a, H, H1, HV, even U3 etc. are also known from Europe.

He claimed all of the Ashkenazi clades were European, it is likely that not all were. Certainly the U5, U4 and V groups are European in origin though. K1a1b is most likely European (known from ancient finds in Spain 6,000 years ago, at least four separate individuals), N1b2 is most likely Middle Eastern, etc.

So, if not 100%, then how much
is probable in average and how
much at maximum?

[Pahli]

I know, but it is J1-occupational-name.
If you prefer be a Serf of Medes, nameless subject of Aryans - be my guest

I wanted the best for you, and you are angry. Senseless.

I am not angry tho and I probably look more Iranic than Iranians that have R1a, Y-DNA doesn't mean that much anyway

And I'm assimilated kek, praise muh Iranism

[Rethel]

All the people who were positive for R1b L47 had different surnames, too.

Do surnames suggest, that they (surnames) have pre- or post- convertic origin?

[Rethel]

I am not angry tho and I probably look more Iranic than Iranians that have R1a, Y-DNA doesn't mean that much anyway

And I'm assimilated kek, praise muh Iranism

Better for us, but you will never be IE. Only a commerade

[Pahli]

Better for us, but you will never be IE. Only a commerade

Pfft, then R.I.P Balkans and Baltics