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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Watling_Street

    As their armies deployed, the commanders would have sought to motivate their soldiers. Tacitus, who wrote of the battle more than fifty years later, claims to relate Boudica's speech to her followers:

    "'But now,' she said, 'it is not as a woman descended from noble ancestry, but as one of the people that I am avenging lost freedom, my scourged body, the outraged chastity of my daughters. Roman lust has gone so far that not our very persons, nor even age or virginity, are left unpolluted. But heaven is on the side of a righteous vengeance; a legion which dared to fight has perished; the rest are hiding themselves in their camp, or are thinking anxiously of flight. They will not sustain even the din and the shout of so many thousands, much less our charge and our blows. If you weigh well the strength of the armies, and the causes of the war, you will see that in this battle you must conquer or die. This is a woman's resolve; as for men, they may live and be slaves.'"
    Boudica fought for Grrl Powah RAWR!!!

    Boudica led her army forward across the plain and into the narrowing field in a massive frontal attack. As they advanced, they were channelled into a tightly packed mass. At approximately forty yards, their advance was staggered by a volley of Roman pila, the Roman javelin. The pilum was designed to bend when it hit a shield, making it impossible to pull out; the enemy would either be encumbered with a heavy iron spear weighing down his shield, or have to discard it and fight unprotected; A second volley followed, as each Roman legionary carried two pila. This tactic destroyed any organised advance by the Britons.
    With the Britons in disarray, Suetonius ordered his legionaries and auxiliaries to push forward in small multiple wedge formation units. With their superior discipline, the Romans were able to continue fighting as fiercely as ever. The Romans, with a clear advantage in armour, weapons, and discipline, had a decisive advantage in the close quarters fighting against the tightly packed Britons. The Roman cavalry, lances extended, then entered the battle. As the Briton's losses increased, the Britons tried to retreat, but their flight was blocked by the ring of wagons and the Britons were massacred. The Roman cavalry also attacked the Britons from the flanks as the Roman infantry advanced. The Romans killed not only the warriors but also the women, children, and even pack animals. Tacitus relates a rumour that 80,000 Britons fell for the loss of only 400 Romans. However the figures quoted for the campaign in the ancient sources are regarded by modern historians as extravagant
    400 losses on the Roman side and perhaps 80,000 for the Celts! This is the price of cuckoldry. I always heard of Boudica as if it were some big blow for women's rights. More like a blow for exterminating white men, which is the real purpose of feminitz anyhow.

    As for the number inflation, this is typical bullshit. Romans were actually fairly strict about such accounts but modern retards do not understand jack shit about the time period. In medieval times the army numbers were small, so they assume they were even smaller back then. But in medieval times mostly mercenaries and nobles did all the fighting. In Iron Age times if you fought a tribe, you fought the whole tribe - every man and sometimes the women as well.
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    What a pathetic speech she allegedly had as well. Sounds like what a modern SJW whore feminist could have said.. well, we could see how that went. All the male cucks who followed her into battle got wiped out. : D


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    Legit, Roman sources also registred an enourmous disparity between Roman casualties and Hannibal's mercenaries (50.000-70.000 vs 6.000) in favour of the later at the battle of Cannae and modern "experts" find them reliable.

    The Romans were quite accurate regarding those estimates no matter if they won or lost the battle.

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    From your own link:

    Although the Britons gathered in considerable force, they are said to have been poorly equipped, their military strength having been impaired by an Iceni disarmament that had preceded the rebellion.[3] They placed their wagon train in a crescent at the large end of the field, from which point their families could watch what they may have expected to be an overwhelming victory.[11] Two Germanic leaders, Boiorix of the Cimbri and Ariovistus of the Suebi, are reported to have done the same thing in their battles against Gaius Marius and Julius Caesar respectively.[15]
    Tacitus also wrote of Suetonius addressing his legionaries:

    "Ignore the racket made by these savages. There are more women than men in their ranks. They are not soldiers—they're not even properly equipped. We've beaten them before and when they see our weapons and feel our spirit, they'll crack. Stick together. Throw the javelins, then push forward: knock them down with your shields and finish them off with your swords. Forget about plunder. Just win and you'll have everything."[16]


    So the Romans beat a couple of ill-equipped "soldiers". The main reason they won according to you? Their opponents were women.

    We have only Roman sources so there is probably a bit of bias regarding the numbers (although I don't doubt the Brits significantly outnumbered them).

    Also, there were men in the army. Its just that the leaders were women. Saying there were more women than men in their ranks sounds like it was said just to give motivation to the Romans that they shouldn't lose.

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    She was a great leader and absolutely brutal. Did everything she could and committed suicide before surrendering.
    I guess every battle loss by a male general is a reason why men shouldn't be soldiers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    From your own link:

    Although the Britons gathered in considerable force, they are said to have been poorly equipped, their military strength having been impaired by an Iceni disarmament that had preceded the rebellion.[3] They placed their wagon train in a crescent at the large end of the field, from which point their families could watch what they may have expected to be an overwhelming victory.[11] Two Germanic leaders, Boiorix of the Cimbri and Ariovistus of the Suebi, are reported to have done the same thing in their battles against Gaius Marius and Julius Caesar respectively.[15]
    Tacitus also wrote of Suetonius addressing his legionaries:

    "Ignore the racket made by these savages. There are more women than men in their ranks. They are not soldiers—they're not even properly equipped. We've beaten them before and when they see our weapons and feel our spirit, they'll crack. Stick together. Throw the javelins, then push forward: knock them down with your shields and finish them off with your swords. Forget about plunder. Just win and you'll have everything."[16]


    So the Romans beat a couple of ill-equipped "soldiers". The main reason they won according to you? Their opponents were women.

    We have only Roman sources so there is probably a bit of bias regarding the numbers (although I don't doubt the Brits significantly outnumbered them).

    Also, there were men in the army. Its just that the leaders were women. Saying there were more women than men in their ranks sounds like it was said just to give motivation to the Romans that they shouldn't lose.
    They were not as well equipped on an individual level but they had more roman equipment than the romans did since then had just slaughtered a full legion by surprise.

    My obvious point is they followed a feminitz dumbwhore and got slaughtered. They charged up a hill en masse so of course they got slaughtered, and in that case numbers would barely matter. If they had forced the Romans into the open then it would almost certainly have been a slaughter in the other direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poise n Pen View Post
    They were not as well equipped on an individual level but they had more roman equipment than the romans did since then had just slaughtered a full legion by surprise.

    My obvious point is they followed a feminitz dumbwhore and got slaughtered. They charged up a hill en masse so of course they got slaughtered, and in that case numbers would barely matter. If they had forced the Romans into the open then it would almost certainly have been a slaughter in the other direction.
    Sounds like typical Medieval Age French tactics. Charge some much smaller force from the front in massive numbers and hope that it works.

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    There are so many wars in the history of mankind being lost, and even wars when the loser outnumbered the winner. And wars between men. Then it wasn't their sex the problem??

    And in your quotes I read
    The Romans, with a clear advantage in armour, weapons, and discipline, had a decisive advantage in the close quarters fighting against the tightly packed Britons.
    Well....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra View Post
    Sounds like typical Medieval Age French tactics. Charge some much smaller force from the front in massive numbers and hope that it works.
    That's why they became known for fucking, they were constantly in need of replacements
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultra View Post
    Sounds like typical Medieval Age French tactics. Charge some much smaller force from the front in massive numbers and hope that it works.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poise n Pen View Post
    That's why they became known for fucking, they were constantly in need of replacements
    France had an enourmous manpower advantage over all european kingdoms/states until the booming of the industrial revolution in the middle/late 19th century wich changed completely european demography.

    Until then France alone represented 1/5 of all European population (including Russia, actualy France had a higher population than Russia until the late 1700's ), coincidentally or not they lost almost every single war after they lost that great numerical superiority...

    Can check the data on this very interesting website:
    http://www.tacitus.nu/historical-atlas/population/

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