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    Default Members, are you pro- or anti- gay rights?

    Do you support the equality of human dignity before the law of all people regardless of sexual orientation?
    Do you support the right of gay couples to adopt children, have their own children (indirectly), and marry?

    What arguments do you have against gay rights?
    What arguments do you have against homosexuality as a phenomenon?

    On what basis should we discriminate against the civil and human rights of gay people in Western societies?

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    Politial and Civil Rights
    Free speech: Almost an absolutist about freedom of speech, but there exist reasonable restrictions to it.
    Freedom of religion: Yes, except for Islam, because Islam is inherently political in nature (i.e. sharia)
    Freedom of assembly: Absolutely, I am generally for the 1st amendment and I uphold it by the political positions I hold.
    Corporal/capital punishment: I do not support the death penalty for anyone except Islamic terrorists who have committed jihad murder. We should try them as foreign enemy combatants.
    Universal suffrage: Of course.
    Compulsory voting:

    Nationalism/Internationalism
    Nationalism: I am for borders, language, cultural identity, national psyche.
    Internationalism: I am against TPP, NAFTA, CAFTA, Permanent and Normal Trade Relations with China (trade deals).
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    UN-membership: No, the UN is dominated by the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation, a 57 nation worldwide Muslim bloc at the UN. Saudi Arabia is on their human rights commission.
    NATO-membership: We need to reconfigure our NATO alliances.
    ZOG: I don't believe in crack pot conspiracy theories


    The Military

    Militancy (as in supporting military operations abroad): I support operations against ISIS.
    Compulsory military service: Against.
    Women in the armed forces: For.


    The Environment
    Environmentalism
    : Global warming is an empirical reality, a scientific fact. Climate change is real.
    Urbanization: For.
    Natural/unprocessed food production: Let science and medicine decide, who am I?
    Animal rights: I support the right of those who can't support themselves politically, Yes.


    The Economy
    Welfare state: Absolutely. I believe in a strong social safety net.
    Taxation: I believe in a progressive tax system that targets the rich fairly, so they can start paying their fair share of taxes.
    Economic System: Nordic style social democracies.
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over industries: Government should have a hand in industry.
    Public/Private/Other Ownership over banks: I believe in public (federal) ownership of certain banks.
    National bank in public/private ownership: Public.
    Healthcare (Private/Public/Other): Universal healthcare system, like what we have in Canada.
    Education (Private/Public/Other): Tuition free education at college or university.


    Social Conservatism.
    Political correctness: Against.
    Degenerate media & entertainment: Fox News is a retrograde force
    Religion: (in most cases) I am an atheist secularist. So, religion should have absolutely no say in government.
    Pornography: For.
    Abortion: Nuanced position. I try to be a compatibilist about abortion and try to merge both pro-life and pro-choice, because I am not anti-choice, but I am not pro-death either. I don't really like the labels. I think abortion should be illegal in most cases, if the fetus is above 7 months old in development.
    Prostitution: For.
    Homosexuality: To each his own, whatever rocks your boat. It is not just a form of sex, but also a form of love, and for that reason it deserves our respect and support.
    (If voted - Same-sex marriage): Of course. I support full equality.
    (If voted - Civil unions for same-sex couples): Yes
    (If voted - Adoption by same-sex couples): Yes, full equality also entails the right to form families and have children. Of course.
    Drugs / alcohol / tobacco: For / Against / Against
    Gun control: Yes. I am against the 2nd amendment.
    Euthanasia: Yes.
    Eugenics: Yes
    Racial integration / miscegenation: Yes

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    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...-Homosexuality
    Here is a thread that is apropos to this one, it is titled, "The Bible, Christianity, and Homosexuality"

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    Gay rights are not really something I think about but them getting married I really don't care. Truth is marriage is not a christian invention. People were getting married way before judeo christian religions and therefore I don't care if they want to have a marriage. Its full of legalities anyways. But they are people regardless of how un appealing homosexualism is to me. They are still people and deserve some kind of rights. But its not something I am really concerned with

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    Do you support the right of same sex couples to marry? to adopt children? to have their own children?

    And most importantly why and why not.

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    Yes, I'm obviously pro. Being gay or lesbian is like being left-handed, you may never decide. It's not a perversion.
    Fed up of people against everything.

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    Neutral. But not against them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    Yes, I'm obviously pro. Being gay or lesbian is like being left-handed, you may never decide. It's not a perversion.
    Fed up of people against everything.
    this.

    Different sexual orientations are also found in other animals too, i don't see how anyone could deny it's existence.

    and it's their life and not mine, banning something because you dont understand it is pure selfishness.

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    The pool surprising me.

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    Pro-right.
    That's basic freedom right to let people choose with who they want to pass their life. Letting them officialize their union won't cause any trouble.

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