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    Islam, The Hadiths, and Free Speech

    Muhammad had said to his followers “Whoever curses a prophet kill him,” (Tabarani, Daraqutni) and there are many examples of people during his time who were guilty of blaspheming Islam and its Prophet. Most of these people were assassinated with Muhammad's blessing, and no punishment or compensation was imposed on the murderer.

    'Abdullah bin Ubai (bin Salul) - Muhammad asked his followers to kill this man for making "evil" statements about Muhammad's family.

    Abu `Afak - Muhammad asked his followers to kill this man for making negative remarks about Muhammad and Islam.

    Ka’b bin Ashraf - Muhammad asked his followers to kill this man for writing inflammatory poetry about Muhammad and Muslim women.

    Asma Bint Marwan - Muhammad asked his followers to kill this woman for composing inflammatory poetry about Islam and Muslims.

    Blind Man's Slave-Mother - When Muhammad learned that one of his followers had stabbed and killed his slave (other sources refer to her as a freed concubine: Umm walad) for making derogatory remarks about Muhammad, he declared that "no retaliation is payable for her blood."

    Al-Nadr Bin Al-Harith - Al Nadir, a storyteller and poet who had mocked him. He was a prisoner of war who was not allowed to be ransomed by their clans and was executed on Muhammad's orders.

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    Islamic Scholarship

    [In Islamic Fiqh] there are absolutely no opinions, no variants, no exceptions...Muhammad ibn Sahnun said that even if a man claims that it is part of his religion to insult the Messenger, and so in his religion it is lawful, that makes no difference to us. If he openly insults our Messenger, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, then our religion makes it lawful to kill him. This surely is the inescapable centre of the current affair. The arrogant kuffar have to learn that the world contains a two-billion community who have a different set of Laws from theirs, and who can never be detached from that Law

    - The Fiqh Concerning Those Who Insult The Messenger of Allah

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    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/12/v...edom-of-speech
    Great video. Spencer discusses Islam and the Freedom of Speech. I highly recommend you watch it.



    Robert Spencer is exposing the foes of the freedom of speech.
    He is currently working on his book "The Complete Infidel's Guide to Free Speech and its Foes".
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    What do you think of Islam's anti-Free Speech stance?

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    Should we ban speech that is offensive to Islam? what about Muslims?

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    Do you support blasphemy laws?

    Is there speech against any religion that you would ban?

    What kind of speech would you ban?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Agapetos View Post
    Should we ban speech that is offensive to Islam?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Agapetos View Post
    what about Muslims?
    If you mean banning Muslims - no.

    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Agapetos View Post
    Do you support blasphemy laws?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Agapetos View Post
    Is there speech against any religion that you would ban?
    No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Agapetos View Post
    What kind of speech would you ban?
    "Kill the [group of people]". And similar.

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