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    I think i posted here enough jihadi nasheed . time to give voice to the crusaders !

    my favorite :

    Palästinalied (Palestine Song) is a poem written in the early 13th century by Walther von der Vogelweide, the most celebrated German mediaeval lyric poet. It is the only song by Walter for which a melody has been recorded, the melody's oldest source being the Münster fragment, dated to the early 14th century.


    Walther von der Vogelweide (c. 1170 – c. 1230) is the most celebrated of the Middle High German lyric poets.



    The main sources of information about him are his own poems and occasional references by contemporary Minnesingers. He was a knight, but probably not a wealthy or landed one. His surname, von der Vogelweide, suggests that he had no grant of land, since die Vogelweide ("the bird-pasture") seems to refer to a general geographic feature, not a specific place. He probably was knighted for military bravery and was a retainer in a wealthy, noble household before beginning his travels.

    Here it was that the young poet learned his craft under the renowned master Reinmar the Old, whose death he afterwards lamented in two of his most beautiful lyrics; and in the open-handed duke, he found his first patron. This happy period of his life, during which he produced the most charming and spontaneous of his love-lyrics, came to an end with the death of Duke Frederick in 1198. Henceforward Walther was a wanderer from court to court, singing for his lodging and his bread, and ever hoping that some patron would arise to save him from this "juggler's life" (gougel-fuore) and the shame of ever playing the guest. He had few if any possessions and depended on others for his food and lodging. His criticism of men and manners was scathing; and even when this did not touch his princely patrons, their underlings often took measures to rid themselves of so uncomfortable a censor.

    From the moment when the death of the emperor Henry VI (1197) opened the fateful struggle between empire and papacy, Walther threw himself ardently into the fray on the side of German independence and unity. Although his religious poems sufficiently prove the sincerity of his Catholicism, he remained to the end of his days opposed to the extreme claims of the popes, whom he attacks with a bitterness which can be justified only by the strength of his patriotic feelings. His political poems begin with an appeal to Germany, written in 1198 at Vienna, against the disruptive ambitions of the princes: "Crown Philip with the Kaiser's crown And bid them vex thy peace no more."
    He was present in 1198 at Philip's coronation at Mainz, and supported him till his victory was assured. After Philip's murder in 1208, he "said and sang" in support of Otto of Brunswick against the papal candidate Frederick of Hohenstaufen; and only when Otto's usefulness to Germany had been shattered by the Battle of Bouvines (1214) did he turn to the rising star of Frederick, now the sole representative of German majesty against pope and princes.
    From the new emperor, Walther's genius and zeal for the empire finally received recognition: a small fief in Franconia was bestowed upon him, which — though he complained that its value was little — gave him the home and the fixed position he had so long desired. That Frederick gave him a further sign of favour by making him the tutor of his son Henry (VII), King of the Romans, is more than doubtful. The fact, in itself highly improbable, rests upon the evidence of only a single poem, the meaning of which can also be interpreted otherwise. Walther's restless spirit did not suffer him to remain long on his new property.

    In 1217 he was once more at Vienna, and again in 1219 after the return of Duke Leopold VI from the crusade. About 1224 he seems to have settled on his fief near Würzburg. He was active in urging the German princes to take part in the crusade of 1228, and may have accompanied the crusading army at least as far as his native Tirol. In a poem he pictures in words the changes that had taken place in the scenes of his childhood, changes which made his life there seem to have been only a dream. He died about 1230, and was buried at Würzburg, after leaving instructions — according to the story — that the birds were to be fed at his tomb daily. His original gravestone with its Latin inscription has disappeared; but in 1843 a new monument was erected over the spot, called Lusamgärtchen (Lusam garden), today sheltered by the two major churches of the city. There is also a statue of the poet at Bolzano, unveiled in 1877, which is located in the middle of the Walther Von der Vogelweide-Platz (often shortened to Piazza Walther in Italian), a place named after him.

    piazza walther :







    http://www.bolzano.net/en/walther-square.html

    Walther square was build in the year 1808 on a vineyard which was owned by the Bavarian royal family. King Maximilian sold it to Bolzano's town council for 3,000 florins on condition that it was made into a square.
    The square's most distinctive feature is the monument erected in 1889 in memory of the great poet and bard Walther von der Vogelweide. It was removed during the fascist era (1935), then returned after the Second World War.
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    this is another version of Palestinalied . I love both but i prefer the first
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    palestinalied original text :

    Nû lebe ich mir alrêrst werde,
    sît mîn sündic ouge sihet
    daz hêre lant und ouch die erde,
    der man vil der êren gihet.
    Nû ist geschehen, des ich ie bat:
    ich bin komen an die stat,
    dâ got mennischlîchen trat.

    Schœniu lant rîch unde hêre,
    swaz ich der noch hân gesehen,
    sô bist dûz ir aller êre.
    Waz ist wunders hie geschehen!
    Daz ein maget ein kint gebar,
    hêre über aller engel schar,
    was daz niht ein wunder gar?

    Hie liez er sich reine toufen,
    daz der mensche reine sî.
    Dô liez er sich hie verkoufen,
    daz wir eigen wurden frî.
    Anders wæren wir verlorn.
    Wol dir, sper, kriuze unde dorn!
    Wê dir, heiden, daz ist dir zorn!

    (this is where the songs i have posted end . but the original version is longer and i will try to find the entire version! )

    the rest:

    Dô er sich wolte übr uns erbarmen,
    hie leit er den grimmen tôt,
    er vil rîche durch uns armen,
    daz wir kœmen ûz der nôt.
    Daz in dô des niht verdrôz,
    dast ein wunder alze grôz,
    aller wunder übergenôz.

    Hinnen fuor der sun zer helle
    von dem grabe, dâ er inne lac.
    Des was ie der vater geselle,
    und der geist, den nieman mac
    sunder scheiden: êst al ein,
    sleht und ebener danne ein zein,
    als er Abrahâme erschein.

    Dô er den tievel dô geschande,
    daz nie keiser baz gestreit,
    dô fuor er her wider ze lande.
    Dô huob sich der juden leit,
    daz er herre ir huote brach,
    und daz man in sît lebendic sach,
    den ir hant sluoc unde stach.

    Dar nâch was er in dem lande
    vierzic tage: dô fuor er dar,
    dannen in sîn vater sande.
    Sînen geist, der uns bewar,
    den sante er hin wider zehant.
    Heilic ist daz selbe lant:
    sîn name, der ist vor gote erkant.

    In diz lant hât er gesprochen
    einen angeslîchen tac,
    dâ diu witwe wirt gerochen
    und der weise klagen mac
    und der arme den gewalt,
    der dâ wirt an ime gestalt.
    Wol ime dort, der hie vergalt!

    Unser lantrehtære tihten
    fristet dâ niemannes klage;
    wan er wil dâ zestunt rihten,
    sô ez ist an dem lesten tage:
    swer deheine schulde hie lât
    unverebenet, wie der stât
    dort, dâ er pfant noch bürgen hât!

    Kristen, juden unde heiden
    jehent, daz diz ir erbe sî:
    got müeze ez ze rehte scheiden
    durch die sîne namen drî.
    Al diu werlt diu strîtet her.
    Wir sîn an der rehten ger:
    reht ist, daz er uns gewer.

    Nû lât iuch des niht verdriezen,
    daz ich noch gesprochen hân.
    Ich wil iu die rede entsliezen
    kurzlîch und iuch wizzen lân,
    swaz got mit dem menschen ie
    wunders in der werlt begie,
    daz huop sich und endet hie.
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    translation of palestinalied :

    Now my life has gained its meaning
    since these sinful eyes behold
    the sacred land with meadows greening
    whose renown is often told.
    This was granted me from God:
    to see the land, the holy sod,
    which in human form He trod.

    Splendid lands of wealth and power,
    I’ve seen many, far and near,
    yet of all are you the flower.
    What a wonder happened here!
    That a maid a child should bear,
    Lord of all the angels fair,
    was not this a wonder rare?

    Here was He baptized, the Holy,
    that all people might be pure.
    Here He died, betrayed and lowly,
    that our bonds should not endure.
    Else our fate had been severe.
    Hail, O cross, thorns and spear!
    Heathens, woe! Your rage is clear.

    Out of pity for us,
    He suffered here the cruel parting.
    Out of pity for us
    He, the Almighty, allowed cursing.
    For us to escape misery,
    it is an immeasurable prodigy,
    more than any other prodigy.

    Then to hell the Son descended
    from the grave in which He lay,
    by the Father still attended,
    and the Spirit whom none may give a name:
    in one are three,
    an arrowshaft in unity.
    This did Abraham once see.

    When He there defeated Satan,
    ne’ er has kaiser battled so,
    He returned, our ways to straighten.
    Then the Jews had fear and woe:
    watch and stone were both in vain,
    He appeared in life again,
    whom their hands had struck and slain.

    Thereafter he walked this land,
    for forty days: then He ascended,
    from whence His Father had him on errand.
    His Spirit, may He protect us from the wicked,
    He at once sent back down.
    Holy is this very town,
    its name, is by God known.

    To this land, so He has spoken,
    shall a fearful judgment come.
    Widows’ bonds shall then be broken
    and the orphans’ foe be dumb,
    and the poor no longer cower
    under sad misuse of power.
    Woe to sinners in that hour!

    All the judgement of an earthly court,
    will give no man respite from accusation,
    for He will want at once to sort,
    for the Last Day annunciation:
    whoever leaves a single sin,
    unatoned here, how bereft he will stand facing Him,
    where he has neither surety nor kin.

    Christians, heathen, Jews, contending,
    claim it as a legacy.
    May God judge with grace unending
    through his blessed Trinity.
    Strife is heard on every hand:
    ours the only just demand,
    He will have us rule the land.

    Now do not ignore,
    what I have recited.
    My wish was to briefly explore,
    the discourse and to you I have presented,
    all the wonder that God has unfurled,
    upon man in this world,
    they began and ended here in this emerald.

    source: http://lyricstranslate.com/en/pal%C3...tine-song.html
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    palestinalied sung by a (french?) woman with french subtitles!

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    another one.
    da pace domine



    Da pacem Domine (Give peace, Lord) is the incipit of two different Latin texts, a hymn and an introit. Both have been the base for compositions to be used in church liturgy, beginning with chant.

    Give peace, O Lord, in our time
    Because there is no one else
    Who will fight for us
    If not You, our God.

    Let peace be in thy strength: and abundance in thy towers.

    Give peace, O Lord, in our time
    Because there is no one else
    Who will fight for us
    If not You, our God.

    For the sake of my brethren, and of my neighbours, I spoke peace of thee.

    Give peace, O Lord, in our time
    Because there is no one else
    Who will fight for us
    If not You, our God.

    Because of the house of the Lord our God, I have sought good things for thee.

    Give peace, O Lord, in our time
    Because there is no one else
    Who will fight for us
    If not You, our God.

    Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Ghost, As it was in the beginning is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

    source: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...44056692279038
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    Hahhahahahahah "Crusaders", nowadays people raving about that are weak racist boys who are 168 cm tall and grew up without a dad.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold-Shekel View Post
    Hahhahahahahah "Crusaders", nowadays people raving about that are weak racist boys who are 168 cm tall and grew up without a dad.
    sadly you're right and these people aren't even christian
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