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    Get educated about homosexuality: genes, hormones, fetal development.

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    Petros, can you name any homosexual historical figures?

    By historical, I mean prior to the 18th century. And by homosexual, I mean exclusively homosexual like the ones we see today, not bisexuals or pederasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    Petros, can you name any homosexual historical figures?

    By historical, I mean prior to the 18th century. And by homosexual, I mean exclusively homosexual like the ones we see today, not bisexuals or pederasts.
    Well, wasn't Alexander the Great rumored to be a homosexual?
    I don't know of many historical figures who were. I might have to look it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Agapetos View Post
    Well, wasn't Alexander the Great rumored to be a homosexual?
    I don't know of many historical figures who were. I might have to look it up.
    No, he had a wife. He was a "bisexual" pederast similar to Sultan Mahmud of Ghazni.

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    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...52#post4091452

    The Naturalistic Fallacy - A topic in homosexuality.

    This fallacy is often used by people (without realizing they are doing it) when discussing the topic of homosexuality.
    I am familiar with this fallacy due to my debates with religious people. This is called atheist counter-apologetics, and it touches upon the phenomenon of homosexuality.

    Just because something is not natural doesn't make it immoral. Explanations are in the thread.

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    What do you think of same sex marriage. Whether you support it or not, please list your reasons for having either opinion.

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    Same sex marriage - Arguments for and against - The right of homosexuals to marry

    Gay marriage or same-sex marriage refers to marriage between two people of the same gender, typically because they are homosexual. It is a controversial subject in many religions and countries. Some countries allow a similar status of "civil union" which is marriage in all but name.

    Arguments for Gay Marriage

    If people want to get married, even if they of the same gender, there is no good reason to stop them. Therefore gay marriage should be allowed.

    Gay marriage provides stability and benefits to the lives of those involved. For example, if one person is sick, the marriage partner has additional rights when dealing with authorities.

    In July 2007, Austin Cline ran a poll on his weblog asking whether atheists should be allowed to marry. Respondents overwhelmingly said that marriage is a civil institution, not a religious one (it should be kept in mind that this poll was posted on an atheist weblog, and therefore the distribution of respondents was certainly skewed). Based on this, Cline drew the obvious conclusion:

    "If religion isn't a good reason to prevent atheists from getting married, how can it be a good reason to prevent gays from getting married?"

    Arguments against Gay Marriage

    Both religious and secular arguments have been presented against gay marriage. It is notable, however, that most of the opponents of gay marriage—certainly the most vocal ones—present religious arguments, either alone or in addition to secular arguments. Rarely, if ever, does anyone present secular arguments alone. This leads to the conclusion that opposition to gay marriage is primarily rooted in religious beliefs. Arguments from religious beliefs fail as arguments since there is no evidence to suggest any holy book is true, and places like the United States have separation of church and state.

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    The Atheist Experience. A Christian caller discusses gay marriage with the hosts of the show.


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