Same sex marriage - Arguments for and against

[Petros Agapetos]

lol, it's nice to see that homosexuality is deeply rooted in some Greek cultures of the antiquity.

[Mortimer]

lol, it's nice to see that homosexuality is deeply rooted in some Greek cultures of the antiquity.

Why do you like homosexuality man? What do you think generally about sexuality? Are you all for a "liberated sexuality"?

[Dandelion]

Am I the only one to notice that he's sodomising a woman (or is he just taking her vaginally from behind)? Notice the breasts and softer body. Way to show a heterosexual act.

[dustdragon5717]

I don't believe that sodomy should be a crime, and I don't object to homosexuals entering into some form of civil union, especially for the purpose of wealth transfer.

That said, I don't believe that such unions should be called 'marriage', I don't believe that they should be applauded, and I definately don't believe that they should in any way shape or form result in any sort of taxpayer subsidization of gay people or their lifestyles.

People should be encouraged to engage in healthy, and responsibile sexuality that can result in the presevation and continuation of culture, nation, and heritage.

[Petros Agapetos]

Why do you like homosexuality man? What do you think generally about sexuality? Are you all for a "liberated sexuality"?

I think it is important to support the civil and human rights of all people regardless of race, ethnicity, origin, sexual orientation, and other human differences. You might say I am ideologically driven to support gay rights. I may not like what they do sexually, because I am so made as to be not into it, but this doesn't give me the right to stop people from loving each other and giving each other pleasure. As for marriage, I support full equality because I don't see any good reason to be against it. If they want to marry, let them, for goodness sake. All they want to do is to have the right to form a family bond, adopt children, or have their own (whether artificially or indirectly or what have you). So for me it boils down to civil rights really.

And it is not that I necessarily like homosexuality. It is that homosexuals like homosexuality because it is their sexual nature. And I am not one to be criticizing their choices. I don't think it is appropriate for me, as a straight man, to be telling other people, whose lives I know nothing about, how to live their lives.

[Mortimer]

I think it is important to support the civil and human rights of all people regardless of race, ethnicity, origin, sexual orientation, and other human differences. You might say I am ideologically driven to support gay rights. I may not like what they do sexually, because I am so made as to be not into it, but this doesn't give me the right to stop people from loving each other and giving each other pleasure. As for marriage, I support full equality because I don't see any good reason to be against it. If they want to marry, let them, for goodness sake. All they want to do is to have the right to form a family bond, adopt children, or have their own (whether artificially or indirectly or what have you). So for me it boils down to civil rights really.

I do too, but I dont know if homosexuality falls into that, I still didnt grasped the concept "of sexual orientation" I think its a new concept, a modern concept. I know gays existed in the past too but it was just "everyone fucks everyone" kinda type. Sexual orientation is different and new. That being said I support all humans but I think there should be some morality code for how to act, Im against sodomising just as Im against a brother fucking his brothers wife etc. Because I see it as "sin and immoral" I wish christianity were state religion.

[dustdragon5717]

'I think it is important to support the civil and human rights of all people regardless of race, ethnicity, origin, sexual orientation, and other human differences.' - Petros Agapetos

These things are not equal, or at least not the same.

Certain cultures are superior to others, certain orientations are more in line with nature, races have different strengths, etc ... we should not ignore these realities for the sake of being nice or pc.

Homosexuals don't breed children, and typically they have an inbalance when it comes to the ideal type of traits you want instilled in children ... two mothers is not much better than having one, two fathers is not much better than having one no matter how effeminate one is ... you want a balance of traits in the family.

[Enflamme]

Leftist thread.

Now I will rename people who have very marked left ideas on all societal topics: gaytist.

I speak mostly of men, because women are fundamentally (to 95%) leftist (on all subjects of society: abortion, LGBT, gender theory, androgyneity, etc) and very homophilous.

[Enflamme]

lol, it's nice to see that homosexuality is deeply rooted in some Greek cultures of the antiquity.

You suck cocks? You want to get fucked?

[Petros Agapetos]

I do too, but I dont know if homosexuality falls into that, I still didnt grasped the concept "of sexual orientation" I think its a new concept, a modern concept. I know gays existed in the past too but it was just "everyone fucks everyone" kinda type. Sexual orientation is different and new. That being said I support all humans but I think there should be some morality code for how to act, Im against sodomising just as Im against a brother fucking his brothers wife etc. Because I see it as "sin and immoral" I wish christianity were state religion.

Interesting. So are you against homosexual sex acts mainly because of your religion?
To be fair to you, the Bible is actually very clearly against homosexual sex, both in the Old Testament and the New.
St. Paul was very clear in Romans.

Homosexuality is nothing new. It exists in other mamalian species too. It is not just a human phenomenon but more broadly a mamalian one. I will post some information about homosexuality occurring in nature, if you're interested.

As for homosexual marriage, all homosexual couples are asking for the right to be treated with equal dignity before the law. Several constitutions in the modern world grant them that right.