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Indeed. Most of R1b is not even Germanic, and I1 could be either Viking or other Germanic. I1 could be from the Franks or any other Germanic group, it doesn't have to be a Viking marker. The resolution of this research is simply too low to say anything definite about the % of Viking lineages.(...) Results? Of the 89 men who participated in the study, the vast majority (52) represented haplogroup R1b, the most common type of Y chromosome variation in Northern and Western Europe. Its origin, still unclear, is to be sought from the shepherds of the steppes north of the Black Sea who immigrated to the West 4000 years ago. It can not therefore be a typically Viking signature. But without excluding it completely either: according to experts, this genetic variation could mean an indirect link with Vikings.
On the other hand, haplogroup I1, found in 11 of the Normans of the study, more clearly suggests a possible Viking ancestry (more direct this time). These variations are very present in Scandinavians (more than 45% of the population belongs to this genetic group in certain regions). But a Germanic origin is also possible. In fact, " when we look at the underlying" footprints "of haplogroup I1, some Norman Y chromosomes show an affinity with the Germanic, while others reveal an affinity with the Scandinavians, " says Richard Jones. However, it is very tempting to consider I1 as a mark left by the Vikings in Normandy, as it is present in approximately the same proportions as those observed in other populations with a known Viking history , " adds the searcher. Finally, two participants presented a haplogroup often considered as typically Nordic: R1a. The other haplogroups found in the Normans are a priori unconnected with the Vikings. (...)
There was a lot of I1 among Non-Viking, Iron Age ancient Germanic groups:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4498708
East Germanic samples, Iron Age Poland - 50% frequency of I1.
Görzig in Saxony-Anhalt, in 300-500 AD - 58% frequency of I1.
Last edited by Peterski; 07-09-2017 at 01:56 AM.
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Great, informative thread.
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G1 were the real vikings.
I and R were only sub-lings of the original G.
The fact they are so rare today is proof enough to this organism.
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