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    Default Central Asian paternal Y-DNA mtDNA ( Turkish chart ) Mongoloid Caucasian Turks haplogroups

    Note: The data is written in both Englisn and Turkish. ( To those who don't know ) All these are either Mongoloid/Asian paternal Y-DNA or European/White paternal Y-DNA.

    Mongoloid male Y-DNA

    C3/C2 = Typical of Mongolian, Buryats, Tunguistic, and common in Manchus, Korean
    N = Typical of East Siberia, Turkic, North Europe/ Russia and very common in Southern Chinese
    O = Typical of East and Southeast Asian
    D1 = Typical of Tibetan
    D3 = Typical of Tibeto-Burmese
    Q = Typical of Siberian Turkics, Native Americans, Southern Chinese minorities and very common in Southeast Asian Thai minorities.

    Caucasoid male Y-DNA

    R1a = Typical of Europeans, Southern Central Asia, North India
    R1b = Typical of European and West Siberia
    J = Typical of West Asian, Middle easterner, Caucasus
    I = Typical of North Europeans and Central Europeans
    G = Typical of Caucasus
    E = Typical of South European, North African and Bantu African


    By the way Y-DNA and mtDNA of Turks seems to vary from region to region. It's a proven fact that Central Asia is the biggest melpot of interracial marriages between Mongoloid and Caucasians.
    Central Asia is a interesting place. A place where many Asian men/women , Caucasian men/women, Half Asian-Caucasian men/women had banged eachother.

    ( Note: R1b, Q is not included since they are group together, we don't know the exact percentage for them seperately in these charts .I will also include their mtDNA )



    Kazakhs


    63.2% C2b, O, 13.2% , C2c 10,5% + D 2.6% = 97.4% East Asian male Y-DNA

    R1a 2.6% =2.6% Caucasian male Y-DNA


    mtDNA: 40-50% Caucasian female DNA
    mtDNA: 50-60% East Asian female DNA


    Y-DNA



    On the Kazakhs, another study shows Haplogroup C3 only 36% and O 12% O, N 10% while Caucasian Y-DNA haplogroup make up 40-50% and Caucasian female mtDNA 50-65% , Mongoloid female mtDNA 40-68%, South Asian mtDNA 3-7%




    Kyrgyz


    C2b 12.2% +. C2c 7.3 % , N3 2.4% = 22% East Asian male Y-DNA
    R1a 63.4% + J 4.9% + I 2.4% = 70.7% Caucasian male Y-DNA

    mtDNA Caucasian female DNA = 27% to 42.6%
    mtDNA East Asian female DNA = 56% to 70%






    some Kyrgyz mtDNA study shows 5-10% South Asian mtDNA, I don't know why

    Other study shows Kyrgyz with 37% East Asian male Y-DNA and 62% mtDNA for fema;e

    Other shows them

    25% O3 + 14 % C3 + 2.4% N = 41.5% East Asian male Y-DNA
    69% East Asian female DNA




    Uyghurs from Kazakhstan

    C2 15.2% , O 15.2 = 30.4% East Asian male Y-DNA
    J 27,3 , R1a 21,2 + G , I 9.1 = 54.1% Caucasian male Y-DNA

    Caucasian female mtDNA: 48%
    East Asian female mtDNA: 52%





    Uyghurs in Xinjiang, East Turkistan

    East Asian male Y-DNA ranges from 22.7% to 39%
    East Asian female mt-DNA ranges from 40% to 58%

    Caucasian Y-DNA ranges from 61% to 78%
    Caucasian mtDNA ranges from 42.6% to 54.5%

    Uygur/Urumqi:
    1/31 = 3.2% Y
    1/31 = 3.2% C
    2/31 = 6.5% E
    8/31 = 25.8% J
    1/31 = 3.2% N1*-LLY22g(xN1a, N1b, N1c)
    2/31 = 6.5% N1b
    1/31 = 3.2% O1a
    1/31 = 3.2% O3a3c*-M134(xO3a3c1-M117)
    1/31 = 3.2% O3a3c1-M117
    6/31 = 19.4% P*
    7/31 = 22.6% R1a

    Uygur/Yili:
    8/39 = 20.5% Y*
    1/39 = 2.6% C*
    3/39 = 7.7% C3c
    1/39 = 2.6% DE(xE)
    5/39 = 12.8% K*(xNO, P)
    1/39 = 2.6% N1*-LLY22g(xN1a, N1b, N1c)
    2/39 = 5.1% N1c1
    2/39 = 5.1% O3*
    2/39 = 5.1% O3a3c*-M134(xO3a3c1-M117)
    2/39 = 5.1% O3a3c1-M117
    6/39 = 15.4% P*(xR1a)
    6/39 = 15.4% R1a



    Uzbeks from Uzbekistan

    C2c 14.3% + D+ 3.6% = 17.9% East Asian male Y-DNA
    R1a 32.1 , J 21.4 + 3.6 = 57.1% Caucasian male Y-DNA

    mtDNA: Caucasian female DNA 65%,
    mtDNA: East Asian female DNA 35%




    Another study shows Uzbeks with 28% East Asian male ( there was 4.5% O3 ) while East Asian female DNA 41%


    Afghan Uzbeks East Asian male is from as low as 3% to as high as 46%, their Caucasian female mtDNA can be 85% to 90%

    Afghanistan and Pakistan ethnic minority

    " Afghanistan's Ethnic Groups Share a Y-Chromosomal Heritage Structured by Historical Events"

    http://ukpmc.ac.uk/articles/PMC3314501/

    "Haplogroup C3 in Uzbeks (41.18%) and Hazaras (33.33%) than it was in Tajiks (3.57%) and Pashtuns (2.04%). On the other hand, R1a1a-M17 was significantly more frequent (p = 3.00×10−6) in Pashtuns (51.02%) and Tajiks (30.36%) than in Uzbeks (17.65%) and Hazaras (6.67%). RM networks of C3-M217 (Figure S1A) and R1a1a-M17 "


    Haplogroup C3 and O3

    Uzbeks/ Afghanistan 41.18% C3 + 5.9% O3

    Hazara/ Pakistan 40% C3 + 8% O3

    Hazaras/ Afghanistan 33.33% C3 + O3 2.56%

    Tajiks/Afghanistan 3.57% C3 + O3 9%

    Pashtuns Afghanistan 2.04% C3

    Pashtun Pakistan 5% C3

    Turkmen



    N 9.5% = 9.5% East asian male Y-DNA
    J1 23.8%, G 4.8%, R1a 4.8% = 34% Caucasian male DNA ( 80-90% if most are R1b )

    Caucasian female mtDNA: 90.2%
    East Asian female mtDNA 9.8%







    Turkmen from Iran and Afghanistan

    have 42.6% haplogroup Q and they look more Mongoloid than the ones in Iran.



    42.6% East Asian male Y-DNA
    53% Caucasian male Y-DNA

    90% Caucasian female mtDNA
    10% East Asian female mtDNA





    Azerbaijan

    5.3% N = 5.3% East Asian male Y-DNA
    J 57.9% , G 5.3% + R1a 5.3% + E. 5.3% = 94.7% Caucasian male Y-DNA

    96.1% mtDNA: Caucasian female DNA
    4.9% mtDNA: East Asian female DNA









    Azerbaijan from Iran


    According to a study in Iran in Northern Iran (which is Azerbaijan) the Y-DNA haplogroups are distributed like as follows:

    Q (9.09%)
    N (6.06%)
    O (3.03%)
    C3 (3.03%)
    R1a1 (3.03%)
    R1a (3.03%)
    R1*(3.03%)
    L (3.03%)
    J2a (3.03%)
    J1 (9.095)
    J2b1 (15.05%)
    J2b1b (3.03%)
    J2b (3.03%)
    R1b1a (15.15%)
    R2 (3.03%)
    G2 (12.12%)
    G1 (3.03%)

    Q 9.09 + N 6.06 + O 3.03 + C3 3.03 = 21% East Asian paternal Y-DNA

    R1a1 3.03% + R1a + 3.03% + R1* 3.03% + L 3.03% + J2a 3.03% + J1 9.095+ J2b1 15.05% + J2b1b 3.03%+ J2b(3.03%+ R1b1a 15.15%+ R2 3.03%+ G2 12.12% + G1 3.03% = 79% Caucasian male paternal Y-DNA


    mtDNA: Caucasian female DNA 85%,
    mtDNA: East Asian female DNA 15%




    Turkey


    13 - 13 % East asian male Y-DNA
    87 - 97% Caucasian male Y-DNA

    mtDNA: Caucasian female DNA 90.1%,
    mtDNA: East Asian female DNA 3 - 15%





    Turkish East Asian male and female mtDNA ranges from province.

    Haplogroup C3 is from 0% to 5%, N 2% to 7%, Q from 1% to 13%
    Last edited by ButlerKing; 12-05-2016 at 11:27 AM.

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    Mongolians are 88 - 99% Asian
    Kazakhs are 60-78% Asian

    Uyghur are 32-68% Asian
    Turkish are 3-23% Asian



    Interracial marriage predominately Asian men and Caucasian female



    Kazakhs
    Crimean Tatars
    Uzbeks Afghan
    Azeris from Iran
    Turkmen from Iran
    Hazara
    Mongolians
    Buryats
    Kalmyks


    Interracial marriage predominately Caucasian men and Asian women.


    Kyrgyz
    Uzbek
    Uyghur
    Nogais
    Turkish
    Turkmen.
    Altay
    Tajik
    Karakalpak



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    There are variations like with Indo-Iranians you know Ossets are different than Persians or Srilankans or Slavic like how Bulgarian and Russians very different. Türks are race but degenerated with mixtures but still present perfect race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witness View Post
    There are variations like with Indo-Iranians you know Ossets are different than Persians or Srilankans or Slavic like how Bulgarian and Russians very different. Türks are race but degenerated with mixtures but still present perfect race.

    The world is degenerated admixture. People think South Asia is big mess of Caucasian and Australoid admixture but look at Central Asia and East Africa they are even bigger mess, even Europe is not clean either.


    I really love this DNA chart
    . It shows there's no such thing as pure west Eurasian genetics.




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    For those of you who doubt haplogroup Q


    " some regions and ethnic groups in the continent show high frequencies. Q-M242 is found in 2.8% (3/106, all Q-M346) in Myanmar, and all the Q samples are concentrated in Ayeyarwady (2/11) and Bago (1/14) regions in southwest Myanmar.[60] And, Q-M242 is found in 55.6% (15/27) in the Akha tribe in northern Thailand.[41] "

    Source ------> Trejaut, J.A. (2014). "Taiwan Y-chromosomal DNA variation and its relationship with Island Southeast Asia". BMC Genetics. 15: 77.


    So not only do Siberian Mongoloid, Amerindian have world highest haplogroup Q but so Southeast Asians. Wether is Mongoloid from south or north they both have high Q.

    So if any Europeans, Middle easterner have haplogroup Q than remember your ancestor was Mongoloid


    55.6% haplogroup Q in Akha people who number 450,000 people. There's a theory that came from Mongolia/Manchuria but these haplogroups are nearly non-existant in Mongols, Manchus however their origins was clearly from Southern China.

    Akha people




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    For those of you who doubt haplogroup N

    Genetic Evidence of an East Asian Origin and Paleolithic Northward Migration of Y-chromosome Haplogroup N
    Hong Shi Xuebin Qi Hua Zhong Yi Peng Xiaoming Zhang Runlin Z. Ma Bing Su



    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/art...l.pone.0066102

    " Based on the dating of the Hg N haplotypes and their geographic distributions paired with the suggested counter-clock-wise migratory route across Eurasia [3], we proposed a migratory map (Figure 4) of the Hg N lineages beginning in southern China about 21 kya, and expanding into northern China 12–18 kya, reaching further north to Siberia about 12–14 kya [3], and followed by a population expansion and westward migration into Central Asia and East/North Europe around 8.0–10.0 kya [16]. "


    Look at the migration of haplogroup N




    Haplogroup N is very high in Mongoloid Uralic population who even have very high Caucasian female mtDNA

    In the The study: " Northwest Siberian Khanty and Mansi in the junction of West and East Eurasian gene pools as revealed by uniparental markers "

    It claims haplogroup N ( N2 and N3 ) in Europe and Siberis are all Mongoloid/East Eurasian





    If haplogroup N is European than it makes no sense for Nenets to be so Mongoloid ( look at the chart of Mansi, Khanty aswell )

    They have 75% N and 64% Caucasian female mtDNA and yet genetically they are 68-90% Mongoloid and only 10-32% Caucasian

    These people definately don't look Caucasian



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    Please challenge me


    Try and refute my hardcore data.

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    Q is Caucasoid.
    Spoiler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Q is Caucasoid.
    Q cannot be Caucasoid. If it was Caucasoid than how come all highest frequencies are in Mongoloid but little to non-existant in Caucasian.


    Highest frequencies: Kets, Selkups, Inuit, the indigenous peoples of the Americas, Akha people of northern Thailand, and Turkmens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ButlerKing View Post
    C3/C2 = Typical of Mongolian, Buryats, Tunguistic, and common in Manchus, Korean
    N = Typical of East Siberia, Turkic, North Europe/ Russia and very common in Southern Chinese
    O = Typical of East and Southeast Asian
    D1 = Typical of Tibetan
    Q = Typical of Siberian Turkics, Native Americans, Southern Chinese minorities and very common in Southeast Asian Thai minorities.

    What do you say about my haplogroup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anglojew View Post
    Q is Caucasoid.

    Your wish is granted.

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