Are Australoids living Archaic Humans?

[Dominicanese]

Now that we'er done flopping our dicks

maybe you guys should check this out and see what you make of it, it is true that early humans (at least in the americas) poceesed some sort of australo facial features but idk (or oceanic migrations)

anyways here

[Amud]

Now that we'er done flopping our dicks

maybe you guys should check this out and see what you make of it, it is true that early humans (at least in the americas) poceesed some sort of australo facial features but idk (or oceanic migrations)

anyways here

People always say weird things, like the features of the Fuegians were caused by Australoid admixture, or that Paleo-Indians were Australoid. This is not true. No Amerindians have ever had anything to do with Australoids.


Don't they look just like Aborigines?

[Lucas]

People always say weird things, like the features of the Fuegians were caused by Australoid admixture, or that Paleo-Indians were Australoid. This is not true. No Amerindians have ever had anything to do with Australoids.

http://www.pnas.org/content/102/51/18309.full

Cranial morphology of early Americans from Lagoa Santa, Brazil: Implications for the settlement of the New World

Comparative morphological studies of the earliest human skeletons of the New World have shown that, whereas late prehistoric, recent, and present Native Americans tend to exhibit a cranial morphology similar to late and modern Northern Asians (short and wide neurocrania; high, orthognatic and broad faces; and relatively high and narrow orbits and noses), the earliest South Americans tend to be more similar to present Australians, Melanesians, and Sub-Saharan Africans (narrow and long neurocrania; prognatic, low faces; and relatively low and broad orbits and noses). However, most of the previous studies of early American human remains were based on small cranial samples. Herein we compare the largest sample of early American skulls ever studied (81 skulls of the Lagoa Santa region) with worldwide data sets representing global morphological variation in humans, through three different multivariate analyses. The results obtained from all multivariate analyses confirm a close morphological affinity between SouthAmerican Paleoindians and extant Australo-Melanesians groups, supporting the hypothesis that two distinct biological populations could have colonized the New World in the Pleistocene/Holocene transition.

Graphs showing the morphological affinities of the samples as seen through the first two principal coordinates (PCo1 and PCo2) extracted from matrices when heritability was equal to 0.55. The percentages accompanying each axis represent the amount of the original variance explained by each axis. (A) Analysis of males, with size and shape considered. (B) Analysis of males with size effect corrected. (C) Analysis of females, with size and shape considered. (D) Analysis of females with size effect corrected. Only the 55 best preserved skulls were included.


Look how close to Australians on most PCA the Lagoa Santa skulls are... An how distant from Amerindians.

Another question if Lagoa Santa people left any genetic impact among modern Amerindians (at least from Brazil). But certainly in earliest times Australo-like guys exist in South America... PCA doesn't lie

[Dominicanese]

People always say weird things, like the features of the Fuegians were caused by Australoid admixture, or that Paleo-Indians were Australoid. This is not true. No Amerindians have ever had anything to do with Australoids.


Don't they look just like Aborigines?

Me, honestly, never did think of any possible Australoid in Amerindians, and if they somehow do

it is very little, however

why do some Amerindians in the South have a skull shape that is unlike the Mongoloid ones?

do you think, it is because of archaic

if these so called early Mongoloids looked different than the one's today, then where the hell did the neo-mongoloid camefrom, unless it is from founding effect

Amerindians are too diverse, but they all look Asian as fuck to me

[Roy]

They look so, but apparently they're fully modern in their anatomy according to anthropological consensus. Some of their features could be explained by long isolation and / or alternatively non-Homo Sapiens admixtures that is in small proportion there.

[Roy]

http://www.pnas.org/content/102/51/18309.full



Graphs showing the morphological affinities of the samples as seen through the first two principal coordinates (PCo1 and PCo2) extracted from matrices when heritability was equal to 0.55. The percentages accompanying each axis represent the amount of the original variance explained by each axis. (A) Analysis of males, with size and shape considered. (B) Analysis of males with size effect corrected. (C) Analysis of females, with size and shape considered. (D) Analysis of females with size effect corrected. Only the 55 best preserved skulls were included.


Look how close to Australians on most PCA the Lagoa Santa skulls are... An how distant from Amerindians.

Another question if Lagoa Santa people left any genetic impact among modern Amerindians (at least from Brazil). But certainly in earliest times Australo-like guys exist in South America... PCA doesn't lie

The famous Luzia is the most famous Amerindian Australoid.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luzia_Woman

[JeanBaMac]

I think that ancestral Eurasians looked like Abos or something similar, due to the combination of East African and Neanderthal genes. Caucasoid and Mongoloid races formed later, due to natural and sexual selection.
But genetically, the true living fossils are people from Middle East (and to a lesser extent North Africa) since they retained many genes of ancestral Eurasians. South Indians (Dravidian, Veddas) and certain Yemenis have somewhat Australoid features.

[JeanBaMac]

People always say weird things, like the features of the Fuegians were caused by Australoid admixture, or that Paleo-Indians were Australoid. This is not true. No Amerindians have ever had anything to do with Australoids.


Don't they look just like Aborigines?

They looked like Asians.

[alpha]

http://www.pnas.org/content/102/51/18309.full



Graphs showing the morphological affinities of the samples as seen through the first two principal coordinates (PCo1 and PCo2) extracted from matrices when heritability was equal to 0.55. The percentages accompanying each axis represent the amount of the original variance explained by each axis. (A) Analysis of males, with size and shape considered. (B) Analysis of males with size effect corrected. (C) Analysis of females, with size and shape considered. (D) Analysis of females with size effect corrected. Only the 55 best preserved skulls were included.


Look how close to Australians on most PCA the Lagoa Santa skulls are... An how distant from Amerindians.

Another question if Lagoa Santa people left any genetic impact among modern Amerindians (at least from Brazil). But certainly in earliest times Australo-like guys exist in South America... PCA doesn't lie

idk about lagoa santa but the fuego-patagonians are simply amerindians and so are the pericues mummies who also have distinct morphologies compared to modern amerindians

[Dominicanese]

They looked like Asians.

they still do