Donald Trump will cause US power to collapse, says man who correctly predicted fall of USSR

[Styrian Mujo]

fuaaaaarck...

[LightHouse89]

Let's hope they take out their bases and troops from Europe and Asia and do generally decline. American influence is not a positive thing anymore. Europe and Russia should collaborate for trade and self defense purposes.

Western European countries should uncuck themselves and serve their own interest as oppose to being America's bitch or Russia's bitch. That would be a better idea. Not to mention this would make Western Civilization Great Again.

A Western Europe under American liberalism or Russian Eurasianism [refurbished socialism] is just going to make Europe even worse. European elites are largely liberal and anti russia but the fact the far right groups in Europe are playing fottsies with Eurasianists is not a good sign either. I notice Eurasianists trying to influence segments of the Far right and alt right here in the USA and that is not good. I dont trust the Russians anymore than the Liberals who run America or the EU.

[LightHouse89]

The Nose always knows

[LightHouse89]

The worst that can happen is that America keeps electing autistic liberals and cuckservative shills who keep the country spending and looting its own resources to help the world or to fund the world. We will not get those resources back.

General Powell had the best military strategy for America. Short term wars not long drawn out conflicts. Policing the planet is something someone else will do and if the world thinks China or Russia would be better at it fine by me. I would rather see my tax dollars go to rebuilding the terrible roads in my state or gone to building a wall along the Mexican border. That would be better than paying to protect cucked out countries like the EU countries or starving people in the third world... who made those problems our problems? No thanks.

[zhaoyun]

It's not difficult to boost the economy. To make a long story short you just look at what economic policies has a history of working and what has shown itself to be failure. Oddly enough we live in a world where image is preferable to tangible results. It's not difficult to simply sit down and look at how past economic policies have effected growth in our country and that of others but few people in government care to do so because math doesn't get votes. Emotional language gets you votes. This is why so many politicians are lawyers and so few have been economists. Economists are socially awkward dorks, while lawyers are a manipulative chatty bunch.

Trump is a business man. I don't think he's a good business man but at least he understands economics better than the typical Washington politician.

I generally agree with you. I hate the fact that most of our politicians are lawyers. Lawyers aren't attuned to actual facts and reality, they make their livings fabricating their own realities as a means to the end. And it has clearly shown in the quality of the leadership in this country. It's scary how many lawyers we have running this country, frankly.

In addition to economists, we need to have engineers and scientists running this country. I think they'd tone down the emotion and focus more on the pragmatic aspects of running effective policies.

Honestly, when Trump talks about putting an end to our nonsensical and disastrous foreign policies, and reinvesting those funds here at home to boost our infrastructure, it's like music to my ears. I've been advocating this for so long. I guess all the shitty leadership in Washington has been so ingrained, that if he could remotely achieve this, it'd already be a huge step in the right direction.

[Oneeye]

I generally agree with you. I hate the fact that most of our politicians are lawyers. Lawyers aren't attuned to actual facts and reality, they make their livings fabricating their own realities as a means to the end. And it has clearly shown in the quality of the leadership in this country. It's scary how many lawyers we have running this country, frankly.

In addition to economists, we need to have engineers and scientists running this country. I think they'd tone down the emotion and focus more on the pragmatic aspects of running effective policies.

Honestly, when Trump talks about putting an end to our nonsensical and disastrous foreign policies, and reinvesting those funds here at home to boost our infrastructure, it's like music to my ears. I've been advocating this for so long. I guess all the shitty leadership in Washington has been so ingrained, that if he could remotely achieve this, it'd already be a huge step in the right direction.

Engineers and scientists would be superb with policies and running the nation, but it is the charmers and lawyer types that people see as real leaders. Unfortunately, the personalities of many capable people leave them short in the leadership department.


This is why I like military men in politics. Pragmatism and leadership ability.

[KMack]

The US will be a poorer country (and corrupter) in 4 years time. I have no doubt about it.

Nah Trumps doesn't owe a bunch of people and countries special favors. Lifetime politicians are knee deep in corruption and paying back donors with
legislation and law making that benefits their donors.

[Jehan]

Honestly, when Trump talks about putting an end to our nonsensical and disastrous foreign policies, and reinvesting those funds here at home to boost our infrastructure, it's like music to my ears. I've been advocating this for so long. I guess all the shitty leadership in Washington has been so ingrained, that if he could remotely achieve this, it'd already be a huge step in the right direction.

You aren't wrong, but a big part of USA economic success come from the domination of US dollar in international transaction.
It might have some repercussion if USA loose the control of international trade.

[MissMischief]

From the moment Trump broke full US commitment to NATO during the campaign trail, US power decreased. It gives to the world and the US allies the sentiment a good chunk of Americans do not care about the US alliances and international engagements or treaties. Even if he decides to fully support NATO, now US allies and rivals will know there is a chance a part of the American electorate would not always support foreign intervention to protect an ally.

Not only does this strongly decrease trust from America's allies, making cooperation and negotiations much more complicated (think about Merkel and Hollande's reactions, the two main statesmen of the EU said they would need to be cautious, even "vigilant") but it also greatly encourages incentive to challenge US power, whether it be from China, Russia, or anyone as a matter of fact.

If he embraces fossil fuels and goes against the climate change fight, he will alienate a lot of countries. If he embarks on a trade war with China there won't be many countries that will support the US.

And think about it, America has been a hegemon for more than two decades now. Before that it was generally on the winning end of the Cold War by virtue of a greater number of allies and a stronger economy. At the same time many powers are craving to come back to the forefront of the international stage and I am sure a few statesmen all around have been patiently waiting for the US to waiver. Some might see it as an opportunity to turn the tables and end the current international order, maybe come back to a balance of powers system rather than the hegemonic one.

[zhaoyun]

From the moment Trump broke full US commitment to NATO during the campaign trail, US power decreased. It gives to the world and the US allies the sentiment a good chunk of Americans do not care about the US alliances and international engagements or treaties. Even if he decides to fully support NATO, now US allies and rivals will know there is a chance a part of the American electorate would not always support foreign intervention to protect an ally.

Not only does this strongly decrease trust from America's allies, making cooperation and negotiations much more complicated (think about Merkel and Hollande's reactions, the two main statesmen of the EU said they would need to be cautious, even "vigilant") but it also greatly encourages incentive to challenge US power, whether it be from China, Russia, or anyone as a matter of fact.

If he embraces fossil fuels and goes against the climate change fight, he will alienate a lot of countries. If he embarks on a trade war with China there won't be many countries that will support the US.

And think about it, America has been a hegemon for more than two decades now. Before that it was generally on the winning end of the Cold War by virtue of a greater number of allies and a stronger economy. At the same time many powers are craving to come back to the forefront of the international stage and I am sure a few statesmen all around have been patiently waiting for the US to waiver. Some might see it as an opportunity to turn the tables and end the current international order, maybe come back to a balance of powers system rather than the hegemonic one.

I agree to an extent. I think Trump is too irresponsible with his language and it decreases trust in the US, and also weakens the stature of his office. I also don't think he'll change either, he's going to keep on tweeting ridiculous garbage and this will just be a continued part of his presidency.

However, America's "leadership" has also cost it a lot. From the neocons coercing the US and their allies to take part in disastrous wars, to American ideological commitment to free trade, regardless of the cost to the American worker, the near insane ideological commitments of our elites has cost the average American greatly. Trump is NOT ideological, and neither am I, and I like a lot of his pragmatic policies, even when I find him annoying AF as a person, though funny and likeable at the same time. (It's complicated)

Anyways, there is also the possibility that more "Brexits" will result in Europe, which will give Trump many European allies instead of being isolated. Trump is the return of American nationalism instead of globalism, and I feel like this is only the beginning of a coming wave spreading throughout the West. So we'll see.