Are Portuguese just Spaniards?

[Dominicanese]

First of all, lets make one thing clear: Portugal is one of the oldest countries in Europe and has the same defined borders since 1139, almost 900 years ago. It is way older than modern unified Spain. We have a different language and different culture. With that said, it is also true that there is no other nation more similar to Portugal than Spain and Spain to Portugal. We all originate from the old Kingdom of Astúrias. When it comes to ethnicities there ain't that many differences in my opinion, it must be like Irish and the British, Croatians and Serbians, etc.

i heard that if u got back some 700 years, spanish would have sounded more like today's Portuguese, idk how accurate this is

[EL_BARBARO]

Spain and Portugal have almost no identity of history outside of being conquered by the Romans.
Look, the only people mentioned are the Iberians, whose language isn't even known for sure and the Celts, a people too light to be the ancestors of the vast majority of modern Iberians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain#...-Roman_peoples

Saint Therese, my lady, you're just clumsily showing your lack of knowledge, which being not a sin, it's just an almost constant fact in the majority of the MURICAHNS visiting this european site.

Take a book sometimes, if you please.

It doesn't hurt, my lady.

You have my word: Earth is round and spins.

[Bell Beaker]

Spain and Portugal have almost no identity of history outside of being conquered by the Romans.
Look, the only people mentioned are the Iberians, whose language isn't even known for sure and the Celts, a people too light to be the ancestors of the vast majority of modern Iberians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spain#...-Roman_peoples

And what is the identity of history of Americans? A Country that was born to become Britain 2.0 and end up being a multiracial/multicultural shithole where everyone hates each other?

[meisje]

Genetically they are closest each other on earth,Based on history,Both of them have their independent own histories in the last 800 years

[Iltirbas]

i heard that if u got back some 700 years, spanish would have sounded more like today's Portuguese, idk how accurate this is

Not sure about such a specific lapse of time, but the medieval variations of Castilian and Galician –both part of the Ibero-Romance family– were definitely quite close to each other, certainly more than modern-day Spanish and Portuguese are.

[Damião de Góis]

Yes, many portugueses believed and believe they are like Spaniards, nowadays and during the History, a lot of them. Even Saramago, if I don't remember wrongly.

We actually don't think about spaniards that much believe it or not.
As for Saramago, he was living in Spain and had a spanish wife. He was basically an exiled mad man. Whatever he said it was probably to please the wife.

Absolutely nothing to do, not even genetics. See genetics maps, please.

On the contrary, if we have "anything to do", it's genetics.

[EL_BARBARO]

We actually don't think about spaniards that much believe it or not.
As for Saramago, he was living in Spain and had a spanish wife. He was basically an exiled mad man. Whatever he said it was probably to please the wife.




On the contrary, if we have "anything to do", it's genetics.

Not even genetics-wise, please....

[Bell Beaker]

Not even genetics-wise, please....

Galicians and Northern Portuguese are basically the same people, Western Andalusians and Alentejanos and Algarvians show great similarity and Extremadurans with all over the Centre/Centre North region......

[EL_BARBARO]

Galicians and Northern Portuguese are basically the same people, Western Andalusians and Alentejanos and Algarvians show great similarity and Extremadurans with all over the Centre/Centre North region......

you wish...

[Bell Beaker]

you wish...

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