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Thread: I2a/I2a1 once ruled entire Europe - WE WANT IT BACK :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robocop View Post
    anything except wiped out some minor boring cultures in today Moldavia (Cucuteni-Tripolje),
    So, let decide, nothing, or something?

    This boring cultures were I2. So, say to us: "thanks!"
    Thank us, that we freed you from your boringness

    or made it possible for creation of another cultures
    You see, we do not only destroyed, but built something
    better in the process, because we are creative

    And btw, you came here with no style what so ever, you didnt even had metal (copper, first metal in eneolithic) weapons, you had flint(stone) knives,
    whenever we find flint knives from around 4000-3400 BC across Europe we know you came there.
    You see - so few resources and technology, but
    we still were better and more efficient than you...

    On the other hand non-IE ppl (entire Y-DNA I family) had copper knives, even blades and axes in those times,
    Which you were eventually given by MENAs...

    you came from Ukraine and southern Euro Russia, plz everyone R1... just go back, no style.
    Why? We did not left Russia for going back there... Why would we
    left anyway, if we would want to go back... it would be illogical...

    Are you Potentia 2.0?

    About those G2a falks, hm..., pfff, I dont know what to say about them, ok they can stay.
    Stockholm syndrome?

    Also take with you those N1c1 ppl, nevermind they were there for 10 000 years, we don't trust them, way too weird.
    We are not interested in Japs and Pons...

    R1 at all, you're too dangerous,
    And this is why we will stay

    Leave or you will all dance Jailhouse Rock, in Jails...[/B]
    It was written for jailed I-niggaz...

    There is nothing to talk about, we were here first, that's it, period, we were here first, all of subclades of Y-DNA I haplogroup are chosen people.
    C1 was firster...

    Ppl say Jews are chosen ppl, no, we are chosen ppl, what Jews? They will also serve us.
    If you are chosen and wonderfull why do you not speak your language?

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    I've said before, advancement in genetics will prove/uncover some things that will shock many.

    Western Balkans (from Slovenia to Macedonia) will bring the most surprises.

    Just wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinan Zirić View Post
    I've said before, advancement in genetics will prove/uncover some things that will shock many.

    Western Balkans (from Slovenia to Macedonia) will bring the most surprises.

    Just wait and see.
    There already have been genetic studies on them, that show that in terms of Ydna they are in majority Slavic(I2a1b) and in terms of admixture they are a mix of Slavs and natives although they are mainly Slavic
    Last edited by Kelmendasi; 04-09-2017 at 10:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Governor View Post
    Nope, nowadays Europe belongs to J1 and J2.
    In France, it belongs to the E1b1.

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    «БАЛКАНСКАЯ» ГАПЛОГРУППА I-Р37

    Карта распространения «балканской» гаплогруппы I-Р37 (Рис. 2.20) показывает ее высокие частоты также и в Италии. В целом, эта гаплогруппа распространена практически по всей Европе, кроме Скандинавии. В Восточной Европе плавный градиент убывания ее частоты с юго-запада (с Украины) к северу и востоку очень напоминает карту первой главной компоненты по классическим генетическим маркерам [Рычков и др., 2002]. Также стоит отметить достаточно выраженное совпадение ареала этой гаплогруппы с географическими границами Европы – при высокой частоте в Причерноморье гаплогруппа очень редка на Северном Кавказе и почти отсутствует в Закавказье, а при максимальных частотах на Балканах очень редка в соседней Малой Азии.
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    Balkanic haplogroup I-P37
    The map of the distribution of the "Balkan" haplogroup I-P37 (Figure 2.20) shows its high frequencies also in Italy. In general, this haplogroup is distributed practically throughout Europe, except for Scandinavia. In Eastern Europe, the smooth gradient of its frequency decrease from the southwest (from Ukraine) to the north and east is very similar to the map of the first major component by classical genetic markers [Rychkov et al., 2002]. It should also be noted that the range of this haplogroup is fairly pronounced with the geographical borders of Europe - at a high frequency in the Black Sea region haplogroup is very rare in the North Caucasus and is almost absent in Transcaucasia, and at the maximum frequencies in the Balkans is very rare in neighboring Asia Minor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kelmendasi View Post
    There already have been genetic studies on them, that show that in terms of Ydna they are in majority Slavic(I2a1b) and in terms of admixture they are a mix of Slavs and natives although they are mainly Slavic
    Whatever it is on Balkans it's related only to Poverty and Wars.

    Sometimes I wander why are we so unfortunate here...

    Poverty, Wars, Slavery... that was our past.. and it looks like it's our future.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinan Zirić View Post
    Whatever it is on Balkans it's related only to Poverty and Wars.

    Sometimes I wander why are we so unfortunate here...

    Poverty, Wars, Slavery... that was our past.. and it looks like it's our future.

    True we have suffered a lot tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    The same can say to you C1 - please go away there where did you come from. Will you do this?

    And btw, I will ilustrate you what you seem do not understand.
    C1 are not in any way older than I-M170 in Europe. I-M170 was found in the same time a few C1 samples (most likely intrusive elements) were found in Upper Palaeolithic. Plus, I-M170 is clearly confined to Europe, while C is extremely widespread, being present even in Australian Aborigines, so it's clear who's native to Europe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Rethel of Retheley View Post
    This boring cultures were I2. So, say to us: "thanks!"
    Thank us, that we freed you from your boringness
    Cultures Robocop listed were not I2 (especially not I2a1b, his and mine branch, which was much further north), but Neolithic.

    And please, IE didn't conquer shit. They killed off native hunter-gatherer population with animal-transmitted diseases (presumably some pox-like disease), just like majority of northern Native Americans died out thanks to diseases Europeans transmitted to them. You simply couldn't have survived contact with society that practices animal husbandry without being severely decimated by diseases, since you haven't already had genes that made you immune to them.

    Plus, farming and husbandry allowed for population size that was several times bigger than that of hunter-gatherers.

    So, farming + animal husbandry and immunity to animal-transmitted diseases allowed IE to spread. Not any kind of "superiority" you are dreaming of.

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