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    Following a day of meetings with leaders of the main political parties, Macedonia's President said he wanted proof of a parliamentary majority before handing any party or alliance a mandate to form a government.

    "In other words [I want] first confirmation and proof of a majority, and then [I will give] a mandate for forming a government, as stipulated in ... the constitution," President Ivanov explained.

    The statement ended the dilemma over whether Ivanov would now give the mandate to the main opposition Social Democratic Union, SDSM, led by Zoran Zaev, whose party came second in the December general elections.
    The head of the winning VMRO DPMNE party, Nikola Gruevski, was first given the mandate but missed Sunday's deadline to form a majority.

    Ivanov this time set no deadliness for party leaders, but said that if neither side can muster a majority, parliament would have to convene, opening the way for yet another early election.

    In the December elections, VMRO DPMNE won 51 of the 120 seats in parliament, while the SDSM won 49.
    Either side needs the support of at least 61 MPs to have a majority. This makes both parties dependent on the support of ethnic Albanian parties who together control 20 seats.

    While the SDSM had called on Ivanov to entrust them with the mandate after the ruling party failed to form a government, VMRO DPMNE has since Sunday called for early elections.
    It also claimed that giving the SDSM a mandate would only destabilize the already divided country.

    Ivanov said that during his talks with party leaders they had discussed all possible options, including the possible formation of a broad coalition government.
    He said whoever succeeded in forming the government should have two priorities, protection of Macedonia's unitary state and systemic reforms to get the country out of its current political crisis.
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    Ivanov's decision not to give a mandate to the opposition, after previously giving that privilege to the ruling party, drew criticism from some observers who accused him of double standards and of discriminating against the opposition.

    "This is utterly unprincipled behaviour", university professor and former Education Minister Nenad Novkovski said.
    "The procedure started with one set of rules and now he is introducing different rules," Novkovski added.

    It was a "political scandal that has thrown the country straight into the depths of the crisis", university professor and former Foreign Minister Denko Maleski told Deutsche Welle.

    After meeting the President, SDSM leader Zaev said they had been informed about Ivanov's decision. "We will make our own decisions and inform the public about our future steps," he added.

    Zaev criticized VMRO DPMNE's insistence on fresh elections, saying that would not be good for Macedonia, "because the crisis will deepen further".

    It had been hoped that the December 11 elections would resolve a prolonged political crisis that revolves around opposition claims that as Prime Minister, Gruevski illegally wiretapped thousands of people.
    The claims emerged from tapes revealed by the SDSM in 2015. Gruevski says foreign intelligence services gave the wiretaps to the opposition in order to destabilize the country.
    - See more at: http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti....S41PqotY.dpuf

    Now is the time for Albanians to support Zaev.

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    http://www.botasot.info/maqedonia/65...qe-po-gatuhet/

    Albanians are putting pressure on Macedonia now. Threatening to divide the country if their demands aren't met as Albanians are a critical part of the country's survival. Basically saying that Albanians from Macedonia and outside stand for over 50% of the state budget and that Macedonia can't last if Albanians stop paying taxes.

    Anywhere this shit can be checked? I doubt 70 percent of the taxes in Macedonia are paid by Albanians.

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    " DUI and SDS(M) continue their negotiations to form a Government. According to Zaev, SDS(M) would accept everything that's part of the Tirana platform to disintigrate the country (federalization, cantonization, official albanian language, change of flag, name and anthem). The only challenge for both political parties is not the forming of Government, but how to get the 2/3 requirement to change the constitution.

    The so called "albanian" platform was initiated by madman and ex CIA Director John Brennan who visited Tirana on December 7th to give his final orders. The platform which is meant to create "Great Albania" is seen as a pretext for a wider Balkan War. The Obama administration has publicly maintained that if they cannot control the Balkans, they would do their best to plunge the region in a war. Once Brennan gave his orders, it was the MI6 Mia Marzouk who actually drafted the platform. The regional war is meant to prevent both Russia and China from making massive scheduled investments in the Balkans who would then naturally remove the US as being the primary "influencer". Lots of media outlets have covered this topic extensively.

    Imagine this, if this war does happen, and judging by the nonchalant behavior of the Macedonian Government, it very easily can (people are very, very fed up), the always "peaceful" NATO would intervene, and we'd have mentally unstable Zoran Zaev, Sekerinska and Open Society's Milchin seating at the negotiating table, negotiating away the country. Looking at the Berlin Congress, the San Stefano peace treaty, Bucharest... where Macedonia was repeatedly decapitated, the notes on each document state that Macedonia was Not represented, due to internal problems and disorganization. Sounds familiar?

    Where is the VMRO-DPMNE in all this? Do we depend on our FM Nikola Poposki who is the mother Theresa of issuing politically correct statements while still sounding like he is lost in his role. Or do we depend on Nikola Gruevski who has yet to recover after being threatened by demented Joe Biden during his last visit to the US.

    We have DUI, making requests that include, get this, for Macedonians to apologize for an imaginary genocide over albanians that occured some time in the past... Yes, this is part of the platform, which includes, but not limited to freeing the terrorists from Kumanovo.

    Instead of Macedonian insitutions bringing to justice and ordering the executions of albanian terrorists who tied explosives to the two Macedonian constructions workers at the Brioni Hotel in Tetovo in 2001, we have a request to apologize for a "genocide" that's apparently in the mind of the demented John Brennan. But this is right out of the CIA playbook, make the demands as crazy as possible, ask for 1000% so you can get 100%.

    VMRO-DPMNE is essentially the only Macedonian political party. The Albanians which are not more than 15% of the population, have the SDSM, DUI, BESA, DPA and the Alliance representing them. Ironically, out of 120 MPs, 100 are ethnic Macedonians, however 20 SDSM MPs are Soros activists.

    Gruevski, Milososki and Co. are 'concerned' they might be seen like nationalists if they issue a statement, any statement, so they are not saying anything, for two years. VMRO issued a memorandum for de-sorosization of the country, and not suirprisingly, did nothing about it!

    Meanwhile the terrorist that entered Parliament through NATO in 2001, Ali Ahmeti, is making demands for federalization, and this is apparently "normal" and not nationalistic at all.

    Zaev and Ahmeti's actions would lead to their imprisonment and or execution in any normal country. It is treason of the highest order. Not in Macedonia.

    //Gorazd Velkovski" http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/31309/1/

    Baby puh-leaaaase. Anyone with some ideas on how they can get 2/3 majority? So they basically would need the support of 80/120 MPs for making the language Albanian. Im-FUCKEN-pawsible. Hope Soros & Gang, Ahmeti and Zaev have something planned or else this whole plan is gon' BUSS!

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