Who looks more alike: Austrians and Italians or Han Chinese and Laotians?

[Tooting Carmen]

Here is a thread that was lost during the big crash. Let us discuss.

[zhaoyun]

Austrians and Italians easily. Han Chinese is not even a homogeneous group.

[Tooting Carmen]

Austrians and Italians easily. Han Chinese is not even a homogeneous group.

What about the Southern Chinese who border Laos and Vietnam: how much do they overlap with their neighbours?

[zhaoyun]

What about the Southern Chinese who border Laos and Vietnam: how much do they overlap with their neighbours?

Maybe only the ones who are immediately adjacent to Laos. Even the Southern Chinese are not really homogeneous. The vast majority wouldn't really look Laotian.

[Tooting Carmen]

Maybe only the ones who are immediately adjacent to Laos. Even the Southern Chinese are not really homogeneous. The vast majority wouldn't really look Laotian.

But do you think that Austrians and Italians are especially similar? (Leaving aside, perhaps, far Northern Italians?)

[zhaoyun]

But do you think that Austrians and Italians are especially similar? (Leaving aside, perhaps, far Northern Italians?)

Austrians and Northern Italians more so, less with Southern Italians.

But Han Chinese is a group with over a 1 billion population, covering a geographic area that is bigger than Europe minus Russia. You're comparing apples to oranges here.

[meisje]

Laotians and Han Chinese

[meisje]

Austrians and Northern Italians more so, less with Southern Italians.

But Han Chinese is a group with over a 1 billion population, covering a geographic area that is bigger than Europe minus Russia. You're comparing apples to oranges here.

Han people are close to each other from Taiwan to Peking what I saw from Oracles

Hakka Han Oracle

1 South_East_Asian 47.24
2 Austronesian 32.06
3 Tungus-Altaic 20.60

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Hakka @ 2.540877
2 Chinese_Taiwan @ 3.665930
3 Han_Singapore @ 3.849341
4 Han @ 5.262555
5 Tujia @ 7.882608
6 Jinuo @ 9.282691
7 She @ 9.672022
8 Hmong_Miao @ 9.772617
9 Cantonese @ 9.871037
10 Han-Mandarin @ 10.490874
11 Yao @ 11.393479
12 Lawa @ 11.495857
13 Miao @ 12.006326
14 Hmong @ 12.317616
15 Paluang @ 12.993467
16 Wa @ 14.085522
17 Karen @ 14.577666
18 Plang @ 16.015209
19 Tai_Yuan @ 16.764755
20 Tai_Khuen @ 17.778486

[Mingle]

The part of China that borders Laos is Yunnan. Southern Yunnan isn't even Han majority. Even though southern Hans are a bit more southern shifted than northern Hans, they look more similar to northern Hans than Southeast Asians. Laos people have a bit of Negrito influence I think since they were the natives there. Austria and North Italy are definitely much more similar. South Tyrol is "Austrian" majority and they are not considered phenotypically distinct there.

[Mingle]

Maybe only the ones who are immediately adjacent to Laos. Even the Southern Chinese are not really homogeneous. The vast majority wouldn't really look Laotian.

The ones immediately adjacent to Laos are mainly Loloish (Yi) and Thai (Dai) people.