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    He definitely raises some good questions. Overall, however, I disagree with his analysis. First of all, we can't equate racism with ethno-nationalism. They really have completely separate meanings, at least in my mind. Furthermore, it's obvious that not all people in these movements are particularly bright and intelligent, but do you have to be? (not going as far as the Englishman in the vid). To want to preserve your people and culture is a basic feeling regarding our values, and has nothing to do with IQ. A construction worker has as much of a say in the matter as a college educated historian. In many ways, these so called high IQ individuals are brainwashed to a much higher degree than those of simpler background who have seen reality for what it. Lastly, it's just outright false that the movements he's referring to only looks at skill colour. Sure, they might accept some idiotic and 'degenerate' people as their European kin, but if they don't act as a European should, and don't reflect the ideology that they are supposed to represent, they won't be seen as anything else than dirt, staining the credibility of the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer View Post
    But white nationalism is a lot weaker than ethno-nationalism. "Whites" are not a nation.
    Maybe "White" in the European context, but not in America where "White" is basically synonymous with the original meaning of "American."

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Of all the stupid shit that comes out of Varg's mouth, namely his anti-urbanism, anti-OoA "we're 100% Neanderthal" non-sense and his Balto-Slavic equality cucking, he finally says something not completely false.
    The guy is essentially a nordicist that even said that red hair is foreign to Europe, what the heck are you talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    The guy is essentially a nordicist that even said that red hair is foreign to Europe, what the heck are you talking about?
    He's a Nordicist in the pigmentation only sense, not the Arthur Kemp(who made it about NW Euros overall) or Madison Grant(who made it about skull shape) sense and thinks Slavs are Nordic.

    Watch his videos titled "About Slavic Peoples" and "Where do the Slavs come from?". He's definitely very pro-Slavic. He also goes into it in "About Alcohol"(although he does raise some good points there, arguing for the similarity of NW Euros and Balto-Slavs, but still doesn't address the issue of Germans also having high alcohol intake with very different results and phenotype differences between NW Euros and Balto-Slavs). In like all of his videos he goes on about his love for Lithuanian/Ukrainian pagans and has pictures of them everywhere. He definitely doesn't like southern Europeans though, yeah, and somehow thinks anyone with brown eyes is admixed with Moors or with foreigners, even though Basques/SW French are the most WHG/paleo European population.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    He's a Nordicist in the pigmentation only sense, not the Arthur Kemp(who made it about NW Euros overall) or Madison Grant(who made it about skull shape) sense and thinks Slavs are Nordic.

    Watch his videos titled "About Slavic Peoples" and "Where do the Slavs come from?". He's definitely very pro-Slavic. He also goes into it in "About Alcohol"(although he does raise some good points there, arguing for the similarity of NW Euros and Balto-Slavs, but still doesn't address the issue of Germans also having high alcohol intake with very different results and phenotype differences between NW Euros and Balto-Slavs). In like all of his videos he goes on about his love for Lithuanian/Ukrainian pagans and has pictures of them everywhere. He definitely doesn't like southern Europeans though, yeah, and somehow thinks anyone with brown eyes is admixed with Moors or with foreigners, even though Basques/SW French are the most WHG/paleo European population.
    (SKIP TO 6:39)
    Basically all Nordicists believe that all people basically descend from nordics. Egyptians, Greeks, Slavs, Celts etc. He just has this idea that if you don't look like so anymore, you must be non-European and mixed with foreign elements. I'm sure if a Norwegian nordicist talks to him, he'd admit that he believes most slavs today to be mixed, only some remain fully European. The reason he's doing that IMO is to just gain support.
    The video I linked, he even says he feels close to a Romanian woman (off course he cherrypicked the blondest one he could find...). This is just a scheme to gain more support IMO, not because he believes it, all he believes is that there are some people in southern and eastern Europe that are descendants of nordics, the rest are mongrels.

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    Varg is quite knowledgable about Paganism. He's worth listening to on that subject. The rest (e.g., primitivism & anthropology), not so much.
    Last edited by Wanderer; 12-21-2016 at 10:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Of all the stupid shit that comes out of Varg's mouth, namely his anti-urbanism, anti-OoA "we're 100% Neanderthal" non-sense and his Balto-Slavic equality cucking, he finally says something not completely false.



    Starting at around 5:40.

    He's 100% correct. This of course doesn't discredit racism as an ideology(especially since the low IQ poor are the most likely to actually live around diversity), but it's 100% true.



    People love to whine and moan about Jews. The greatest threat to the white man is incompetent resistance, whether that be Hitler loving Nazi LARPers or just any idiot who cannot come up with a coherent argument, not the Jews or leftists. I'm absolutely convinced a large segment of the white liberal/leftist population is actually more elitist than egalitarian and are more anti-racist because they think right-wingers are retarded, not that they legitimately care about all of humanity or whatever. Not all leftists, but a significant portion of them, and a majority of moderates/apolitical people.

    The same goes for the far-left and goyim commies, too, though. All people on the fringes are the dumbest, the apolitical and people on the center, whether it be center-left or center-right are the smartest but are ultimately cowards and will achieve nothing other than the status quo.

    Really, this battle should've been already won by the 90s, when we already had enough information on immigrants and race, and because of this incompetent nationalism I can't see whites being massively woken up until we're like 30% of the population and all the faggot lily white suburbs are diversified.

    Time to pack your bags and move to Latvia or some other shithole, goys.
    Yeah but we're gonna need those white monkeys as guards of the concentrantion camps.

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    I really like Varg's content when it's about preservation of culture and survivalism. His racist stuff is pretty stupid: We're all Europeans, but you, that guy with brown hair and brown eyes, you are mixed with different people ( you must accept the fact that he does not claim superiority of a race, he clearly states that as much as Negroes won't survive in European forests neither would whites survive in Africa). It's enough to have high cheekbones to be classified by him as Mongoloid-mixed. The purest European has blond hair, blue eyes, a straight nose, no slopey ( even though Neanderthals are known for the slopey forehead) forehead and above all, find no meaning in civilization, as ( he claimed) it's the product of forced adaption by the human brain to race mixing. His views are outright contradictory but I can't not agree: We need to preserve our traditions, our race, and we need to go back to our ancient religion, whichever that is. That is my personal opinion, of a high cheekboned, slanty eyed, highskulled, swarthy white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    (SKIP TO 6:39)
    Basically all Nordicists believe that all people basically descend from nordics. Egyptians, Greeks, Slavs, Celts etc. He just has this idea that if you don't look like so anymore, you must be non-European and mixed with foreign elements. I'm sure if a Norwegian nordicist talks to him, he'd admit that he believes most slavs today to be mixed, only some remain fully European. The reason he's doing that IMO is to just gain support.
    The video I linked, he even says he feels close to a Romanian woman (off course he cherrypicked the blondest one he could find...). This is just a scheme to gain more support IMO, not because he believes it, all he believes is that there are some people in southern and eastern Europe that are descendants of nordics, the rest are mongrels.
    I think he thinks most Balto-Slavs actually look like that though, or have the same rate of that look as Scandinavians, so he would have no particular reason to be anti-Slavic more so than anti-Norwegian or w/e. There is a bit of a myth out there that Eastern Europeans, Russians, etc are particularly blonde, when even Austrians are lighter haired than Russians and Russians are barely lighter eyed than the Welsh.

    I see no real concrete reason why he would just say it to gain subscribers but then also publicly be against southern Europeans, from whom he could also get more subs from. I guess I wouldn't be surprised though, the majority of his fanbase seems to be Brazilian/Russian.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    I think he thinks most Balto-Slavs actually look like that though, or have the same rate of that look as Scandinavians, so he would have no particular reason to be anti-Slavic more so than anti-Norwegian or w/e. There is a bit of a myth out there that Eastern Europeans, Russians, etc are particularly blonde, when even Austrians are lighter haired than Russians and Russians are barely lighter eyed than the Welsh.

    I see no real concrete reason why he would just say it to gain subscribers but then also publicly be against southern Europeans, from whom he could also get more subs from. I guess I wouldn't be surprised though, the majority of his fanbase seems to be Brazilian/Russian.
    Well, what do you think they look like? Apart from some mong in there. Most northern Russians, Baltic people and Finns do look fair haired and blue eyed......
    Maybe not nordic CM-like, but baltid and such....

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