Did Huns contribute to Hungarian ethnogenesis?

[Mingle]

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[Norse]

The Huns as I understand it was already a largely European force once they reached Europe proper.

[Melki]

Their contribution is not something to be proud of

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...ght=effeminate

[OldWayGuy]

Example Magyar Huns roots toda

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[TheForeigner]

Post-hunnic population, after they lost their power over Europe.

How did they interact with Hungarians? What is their connection with Hungarians? Did they live in Hungary or Transylvania?

[johen]

What ever happened to the Huns after the death of Atilla. Did they contribute to Hungarian ethnogenesis or were they completely expelled from Pannonia after the death of Atttila? The name of Atilla is very popular among Hungarians and they have statues of him in public places. Count Dracula, who in the book by Bram Stoker was a Hungarian Szekler noble, says he has the blood of Dracula in his veins.

Is it true that imaginary Dracula was related with real Hun people? Just curious, was there any cannibalism at Hunnic Age? like revenge cannibalism.

B/c of the following result, people thought that Attila had Hg P:

The Hungarian population belongs linguistically to the Finno-Ugric branch of the Uralic family. The Tat C allele is an interesting marker in the Finno-Ugric context, distributed in all the Finno-Ugric-speaking populations, except for Hungarians. This question arises whether the ancestral Hungarians, who settled in the Carpathian Basin, harbored this polymorphism or not. 100 men from modern Hungary, 97 Szeklers (a Hungarian-speaking population from Transylvania), and 4 archaeologically Hungarian bone samples from the 10th century were studied for this polymorphism. Among the modern individuals, only one Szekler carries the Tat C allele, whereas out of the four skeletal remains, two possess the allele. The latter finding, even allowing for the low sample number, appears to indicate a Siberian lineage of the invading Hungarians, which later has largely disappeared.

The two modern Hungarian-speaking populations, based on 22 Y-chromosomal binary markers, share similar components described for other Europeans, except for the presence of the haplogroup P*(xM173) in Szekler samples, which may reflect a Central Asian connection, and high frequency of haplogroup J in both Szeklers and Hungarians. MDS analysis based on haplogroup frequency values, confirms that modern Hungarian and Szekler populations are genetically closely related, and similar to populations from Central Europe and the Balkans.

[blogen]

How did they interact with Hungarians? What is their connection with Hungarians? Did they live in Hungary or Transylvania?

That was the story of the Hungarian-Bulgarian interactions before the 11th century. Slavic Bulgarians with an Onogur Bulgarian origin elite lived in Transylvania, in the Hungarian Plain and in the present central Slovakia directly before the Hungarian conquest in the 9th century. The Bulgaro-Slavic presence in Central Slovakia and Transylvania was numerous and sporadic in the Plain (garrisons, for example Csongrád).

[TheForeigner]

That was the story of the Hungarian-Bulgarian interactions before the 11th century. Slavic Bulgarians with an Onogur Bulgarian origin elite lived (but mostly ruled these lands with small settlers communities) in Transylvania, in the Hungarian Plain and in the present central Slovakia directly before the Hungarian conquest in the 9th century.

So Onogurs were Bulgars or related and allied with them and lived in this lands?

[blogen]

So Onogurs were Bulgars or related and allied with them and lived in this lands?

The Turkic origin element in the Bulgarian ethnogenezis. Kuvrat' peoples.

[Mingle]

That was the story of the Hungarian-Bulgarian interactions before the 11th century. Slavic Bulgarians with an Onogur Bulgarian origin elite lived in Transylvania, in the Hungarian Plain and in the present central Slovakia directly before the Hungarian conquest in the 9th century. The Bulgaro-Slavic presence in Central Slovakia and Transylvania was numerous and sporadic in the Plain (garrisons, for example Csongrád).

Weren't the Onogurs (ten tribes) already settled in Central Europe when the Bullgars invaded? When the Onogurs first came to Europe, the Bulgars were still in the Volga region at the time. The First Bulgarian Empire was established in 681 AD whereas Onogurs lived in Europe starting in the 400s.