A generation of racially-lost women or degradation of Western society at large?

[Debaser11]

It would be better to call it equal but different. Behind every strong man there is his fine wife.[/FONT]

Sort of like easy but challenging or extravagant but necessary?

Yes.. but when they go for the macho "wrong" guys they get exactly what they deserve: pregnancy and an STD with their bf bailing out.

I wouldn't say they deserve it. Men should be macho to some degree just like women should be ladies to some degree.

Yes.. and actually they should have the obligation to serve because they also the right to vote. And why should they have the right to send their husband and sons to war without having to take the rifle out of the closet themselves ?

I don't see how one right automatically implies the other. It's like saying that because I have the right to own a gun here in the U.S., that I have an obligation to pay federal income taxes. The right does not imply the obligation such as you claim. And what's in bold is not a right. The men going off to fight is not a right. Women have no "right to send their husbands to war." I doubt I will find such a right listed anywhere.

Yes they should as it will give men something new: a feeling of responsibility for their unborn child. It's this non-caring attitude that makes them clear the field after having inpregnated her.


For short: let's go from equal rights and equal opportunities to equal duties.

Well, what you're suggesting is pretty impossible given how women are the ones that have the ultimate say about the fetus and not men. They can't both have the say. Inevitably, one is the ultimate decision maker and the other isn't. You're confusing rights with duties again. They shouldn't be conflated.

[SwordoftheVistula]

Lol because if I don't do that she will not let me be with her.

And this is a negative because...?

[Austin]

And this is a negative because...?

No I do want to be with such girls. I am just complaining about how their expectations are mundane and trivial and how they should like me for me not because I have met XYZ social criterion.

Respectable/decent Western girls are very hard to get through to on a short basis unless they are drunk. They then go to Bali and have sex with a black unemployed beach guy. They have a double standard for Western guys is all I'm saying.

[RoyBatty]

It just is not worth wasting your time and reinforcing a negative view of women, which could then become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Austin, brother Fortis raises a very valuable but oft overlooked point here. In effect you are reinforcing a negative female stereotype by (possibly unconsciously) seeking them out. The end result is that in your mind you confirm "the worst" due to this self-fulfilling prophecy coming to fruition every time. Be careful of settling into a pattern here because once you're stuck, it will become increasingly difficult to extract yourself from it.

It may not seem to you like this is what you're doing but it's difficult for a person to see their actions the way it may appear to others. I'm not claiming "we're necessarily right you're necessarily wrong" but it's something worth considering.

Time spent chasing ghosts, cocaine, the new 'new', the next restaurant.

Another very valid comment. One could spend your entire life chasing the next best thing but it's ultimately pointless. Imo it's better to settle for quality than to keep senselessly "upgrading" in order to impress yourself, friends, peers and so on.

To be honest I find most women extremely lacking in areas of interest conversation/activity wise. They are much too emotional and stress out far too easily and do not temper their emotions properly at all. Maybe when I'm older I'll be willing to deal with that and accept it but for now it is easier just to move on rather than deal with it all. I'm young so I can though ;p

A possible reason why you're experiencing issues with boring women could be because those are the ones you are typically attracted to, cross paths with etc. The interesting and smart ones do exist. I know. However, they don't "advertise" or typically seek out attention so finding them isn't so easy.

It's also unlikely they'll show much interest in what they perceive to be a male equivalent of the females you describe. In other words, if your game is geared towards the superficial ones the non-superficial ones will probably pick up on this and steer clear.

As far as being more emotional and stressed than men, generally this is true so we're stuck there. However, not all are as extreme and unhinged so there's hope on that front as well.

[SwordoftheVistula]

they should like me for me not because I have met XYZ social criterion.

Well they aren't going to, and that's just the way nature created things. Women are designed to seek out men who meet certain criterion, though modern culture has messed this up to some degree by glorifying certain characteristics and minimizing others.

You are right about the double standards though.

[Dario Argento]

Dat chinks be ugly. LOL, they're all shorter than the girls.