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    lol who cares it's Spain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    I sstumbled on a similar article in Spanish. But the Basque Country is not only on the Spanish side; it doesn't explain why separatist movements are sleepy in Iparralde (the northern -French- side) too.
    French Basques are much more assimilated because of France's Frenchification policies after the French Revolution.

    Spain tried to do the same thing in Spain to the Basques, but they fought back in the Carlist Wars. The Carlists eventually lost, but the seeds of Basque nationalism were planted by then and they Basques continued fighting for their rights. It also helps that Basques were a greater percentage in Spain than in France. There were also other groups in Spain like the Catalans that wanted rights for their people. France's Basque region was just a few tiny rural sparsely populated unimportant towns whereas the Spanish Basque regions were much more significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    French Basques are much more assimilated because of France's Frenchification policies after the French Revolution.

    Spain tried to do the same thing in Spain to the Basques, but they fought back in the Carlist Wars. The Carlists eventually lost, but the seeds of Basque nationalism were planted by then and they Basques continued fighting for their rights. It also helps that Basques were a greater percentage in Spain than in France. There were also other groups in Spain like the Catalans that wanted rights for their people. France's Basque region was just a few tiny rural sparsely populated unimportant towns whereas the Spanish Basque regions were much more significant.
    Wrong. The regional identity is very strong in France, stronger than ever. Ask Enflamme and Ilma, if you're not convinced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    lol who cares it's Spain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mingle View Post
    French Basques are much more assimilated because of France's Frenchification policies after the French Revolution.

    Spain tried to do the same thing in Spain to the Basques, but they fought back in the Carlist Wars. The Carlists eventually lost, but the seeds of Basque nationalism were planted by then and they Basques continued fighting for their rights. It also helps that Basques were a greater percentage in Spain than in France. There were also other groups in Spain like the Catalans that wanted rights for their people. France's Basque region was just a few tiny rural sparsely populated unimportant towns whereas the Spanish Basque regions were much more significant.
    That's not the cause of the Carlist Wars. The Carlist Wars was an anti-liberal movement that had adherents in areas that were hyper traditional. Carlists fought on the side of Franco during the Spanish Civil War and when they no longer served a purpose he tried to stamp them out and was for the most part successful.


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    I support the separatists movement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    lol who cares it's Spain
    Apparently, you. You participate in every thread about Spain you see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etain View Post
    lol who cares it's Spain
    I wouldn't have expected any other response from a dim-witted cattle-smelling Murican.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melki View Post
    I wouldn't have expected any other response from a dim-witted cattle-smelling Murican.
    well you're quite bigoted.

    Interesting how you react to a joke of mine with such butthurt. Anybody with half a brain knows not to take me seriously at this point.
    You are no different than gitano viejo.

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