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    Quote Originally Posted by Viriato View Post
    Bosniaks are not European so I can only assume that they have more in common with their non-European fellows from Turkey.
    I am proud not to be European. Why does everyone like it so much anyway? Europe is the birthplace of fascism, nazism, colonialism, Catholic inquisitions, witch hunting and many other negative things. I am proud to belong to a nation which never practiced any of these vile things.
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    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    I am proud not to be European. Why does everyone like it so much anyway? Europe is the birthplace of fascism, nazism, colonialism, Catholic inquisitions, witch hunting and many other negative things. I am proud to belong to a nation which never practiced any of these vile things.
    Come ooon every nation has practised some witch hunting at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkSecret View Post
    Come ooon every nation has practised some witch hunting at the time.
    Bosnia was the only European nation in Middle Ages to have heresy as official state religion (the Bosnian Church, formed by the Christian heresies of Bogomilism and Aryanism, outlawed by both Catholic Vatican and Orthodox Constantinople). And while these people were exterminated in neighboring Catholic Croatia and Orthodox Serbia, Catholic and Orthodox minorities leaved peacefully in Bosnia. I am proud of that.
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witness View Post
    It's all dissimilarities. The similarities you say are just same like Algeria or Morocco or Pakistan and also present in Turkey. You didnt answer OP question. Croat Vs Türk.
    Croat.

    We speak a similar language, we had massive population exchanges in last few centuries (with Muslim Croats of Slavonija and Lika becoming Bosniak, and Bosniak Catholics of Hum and Bosnia becoming Croats trough Croatization of 19th. century). While with the Turks besides religion, we really don't share that much more than any other Balkanian nations.

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    The Bosnian flag looks like a variant of the EU flag. Therefore the answer must be Turks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGoldenSon View Post
    Croat.

    We speak a similar language, we had massive population exchanges in last few centuries (with Muslim Croats of Slavonija and Lika becoming Bosniak, and Bosniak Catholics of Hum and Bosnia becoming Croats trough Croatization of 19th. century). While with the Turks besides religion, we really don't share that much more than any other Balkanian nations.

    Food (ćevapi, burek, kahva)?

    Folk songs and clothes (sevdalinke, fesovi, stara bošnjačka odjeća)?

    Appearance of cities (do Sarajevo and Mostar look more like Istanbul or Zagreb? Be honest)?
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthropos View Post
    The Bosnian flag looks like a variant of the EU flag. Therefore the answer must be Turks.
    This is the forced flag implemented by UN. This is the real, historical one:

    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    This is the forced flag implemented by UN. This is the real, historical one:

    But is that really a flag of Bosnia per se? It looks like something from the Franks who indeed ruled there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthropos View Post
    But is that really a flag of Bosnia per se? It looks like something from the Franks who indeed ruled there.
    It was the flag of royal Kotromanić dynasty in Middle Ages (implemented in 14th century). It doesn't necessarily mean it was taken from Franks, as lilies appear in many European countries as a symbol (archeologists have found lilies engraved in stone dated back to Roman Age in Bosnia, so it's obviously pre-Slavic).
    Quote Originally Posted by Szegedist View Post
    There is no such thing as a moderate Serb. Every Serb is a supporter of the Chetnik ideology to some degree. Some Serbs like Davai are openly chetniks, while others like rv12aval are cryptochetniks who hide behind Bratsvo I Jedinstvo and other such concepts. Yugoslav partisans believer in the chetnik ideology, but could not display it openly because otherwise they couldn't recruit naive Croats and Bosniaks, which were necessary for victory. We shouldn't make a difference between a Serb and a chetnik, the two are exactly the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Destroyer View Post
    It was the flag of royal Kotromanić dynasty in Middle Ages (implemented in 14th century). It doesn't necessarily mean it was taken from Franks, as lilies appear in many European countries as a symbol (archeologists have found lilies engraved in stone dated back to Roman Age in Bosnia, so it's obviously pre-Slavic).
    Franks were cultural heirs of Romans anyway. Kotromanics were Christians. Modern Bosnia is not much of a sequel. You call your present flag forced, but support from international organisations like the UN and others was needed for Bosnia to become a country in the first place.
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