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  • Georgians

    10 62.50%
  • Azeris

    6 37.50%
  • Turks

    7 43.75%
  • Greeks

    7 43.75%
  • Lebanese

    2 12.50%
  • Israelis

    2 12.50%
  • Cypriots

    4 25.00%
  • Assyrians

    8 50.00%
  • Kurds

    4 25.00%
  • Persians

    7 43.75%
  • Levantine Arabs (Lebanon, Syria)

    3 18.75%
  • Albanians

    0 0%
  • Balkan Slavs

    1 6.25%
  • Latin Americans

    1 6.25%
  • None

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witness View Post
    First Assyrians Second Persian-Kurd Third Georgian. Türks nowhere in the ranks.
    The Islamic Republic of Iran has a vastly different culture from our own. And Kurds are Muslims too.
    Armenians are closest to Georgians and Assyrians when you take religion into account to. Many people forget that religion is culture too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Agapetos View Post
    Then what music does it sound like to you. When I first heard this music, I believed it was an Austrian classical music. It is called Masquerade? Do you like it? Here is a similar music from a Russian composer.

    The Waltz Music of the Austrian, Johann Strauss, is the Hallmark of its Creation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
    Armenian folklore.
    If you did not know this is Armenian, it can be guessed as Kurdish, Assyrian, or some kind of Balkanian music, but not Georgian at all.


    Thats why i asked you, what you mean, if you mean folklore, we are on different planets.
    This music is the same as that in Germany, Norway, Sweden, Denmark... Armenians are true western europeans.

    You are enemy of armenians.

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    Macedonian folk dance.

    Armenian folk dance

    Georgian folk dance


    Even Macedonian is closer to Armenian, than Georgian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
    Armenian folklore.
    If you did not know this is Armenian, it can be guessed as Kurdish, Assyrian, or some kind of Balkanian music, but not Georgian at all.


    Thats why i asked you, what you mean, if you mean folklore, we are on different planets.
    This sounds like village music. I agree it sounds sort of Turkish.
    But check out these songs:


    Written by the great Soviet composer Arno Babajanyan. Sung by Ruben Matevosyan.


    This is from Sayat Nova, an Armenian composer who has written many songs in the Georgian language.

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    This is typical Armenian city music. Does it sound like Turkish, Greek. Georgian, Persian, North Caucasus music?

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    The designation "Armenia" applies to different entities: a "historical" Armenia, the Armenian plateau, the 1918–1920 U.S. State Department map of an Armenia, and the current republic of Armenia. The notion "Armenian culture" implies not just the culture of Armenia but that of the Armenian people, the majority of whom live outside the current boundaries of the republic of Armenia.

    Armenians call themselves hay and identify their homeland not by the term "Armenia" but as Hayastan or Hayasdan. The origins of these words can be traced to the Hittites, among whose historical documents is a reference to the Hayasa. In the Bible, the area designated as Armenia is referred to as Ararat, which the Assyrians referred to as Urartu. Armenians also identify themselves as the people of Ararat/Urartu and of Nairi, and their habitat as nairian ashkharh or yergir nairian . Armenians have called themselves Torkomian or Torgomian . They also call themselves Haigi serount or Haiki seround , descendants of Haig/Haik.

    Location and Geography

    Armenia has been identified with the mountainous Armenian plateau since pre-Roman times. The plateau is bordered on the east by Iran, on the west by Asia Minor, on the north by the Transcaucasian plains, and on the south by the Mesopotamian plains. The plateau consists of a complex set of mountain ranges, volcanic peaks, valleys, lakes, and rivers. It is also the main water reservoir of the Middle East, as two great rivers—the Euphrates and the Tigris— originate in its high mountains. The mean altitude of the Armenian plateau is 5,600 feet (1,700 meter) above sea level.

    Present-day Armenia—the republic of Armenia—is a small mountainous republic that gained its independence in 1991, after seven decades of Soviet rule. It constitutes one-tenth of the historical Armenian plateau. Surrounding Lake Sevan, it has an area of approximately 11,600 square miles (30,000 square kilometers). Its border countries are Azerbaijan, Azerbaijan-Naxçivan, the Republic of Georgia, Iran, and Turkey. Its climate is highland continental, with hot summers and cold winters. Despite its small size, it was one of the most densely populated republics of the Soviet Union. Half of its inhabitants live in the Ararat plain, which constitutes only 10 percent of its territory and includes the capital city of Yerevan. Yerevan houses one-third of the country's population.

    Armenia is a rugged, volcanic country with rich mineral resources. It is highly prone to earthquakes and occasional droughts.

    Demography. Approximately 3 million people live in the republic of Armenia. Another 3 million Armenians live in various countries of the ex-Soviet Union—mainly in Russia. One and a half million Armenians are dispersed in the Americas. About one million Armenians live in various European countries, and half a million Armenians live in the Middle East and Africa. The ethnic composition of Armenia's population is 93.3 percent Armenian; 1.5 percent Russian; 1.7 percent Kurdish; and 3.5 percent Assyrian, Greek, and other.

    Linguistic Affiliation. Armenian is the official language. When Armenia was under Russian and Soviet rule, Russian constituted the second official language. The Armenian language is an Indo-European language. Its alphabet was invented by the monk Mesrob in 406 C.E. . There are two major standardized versions of Armenian: Western Armenian, which was based on a version of nineteenth century Armenian spoken in Istanbul and is used mainly in the Diaspora, and Eastern Armenian, which was based on the Armenian spoken in Yerevan and is used in the ex-Soviet countries and Iran. This latter dialect was subjected to orthographic reforms during the Soviet era. There is also "Grabar" Armenian, the original written language, which is still used in the liturgy of the Armenian national (Apostolic) church.

    Symbolism
    . Mount Ararat has had symbolic significance for all Armenians. Today it lies outside the boundaries of Armenia. It may be seen on the horizon from Yerevan, but like a mirage it remains inaccessible to Armenians. Ancient manuscripts depicting the history of Armenia are housed in the national library, Madenataran, and are valued national and historical treasures. Particularly significant symbols of Armenian culture include the statue of Mother Armenia; Dsidsernagabert, a shrine with an ever-burning fire in memory of the Armenian victims of the 1915 genocide; the ruined ancient monasteries; khatchkars engraved stone burial crosses; the ruins of Ani, the last capital of historic Armenia, which fell in 1045; and the emblem of the 1918 first republic of Armenia, its tricolor flag.

    History and Ethnic Relations
    Emergence of The Nation. Many prehistoric sites have been unearthed in and around Armenia, showing the existence of civilizations with advanced notions in agriculture, metallurgy, and industrial production, with diverse standardized manufacturing processes and pottery.

    The origins of the Armenians have long been subject to debate among historians, linguists, and archaeologists. In the 1980s, linguists drew attention to the existence of many similarities between the Indo-European and Semitic languages. The only way to explain the linguistic similarities between these two linguistic groups would be to geographically move the cradle of the Indo-European linguistic groups farther east, to the Armenian plateau.

    The Armenians and their plateau have been subject to various invasions. They witnessed Alexander the Great's expeditions toward the east. They fought the Roman legions and the Sassanid Persians, and in most cases lost. They stopped the Arabian expansion toward the north and provided emperors to the Byzantine throne. Having lost their own kingdom in the eleventh century to the invading Tartars and Seljuks, they managed to create a new kingdom farther south and west, in Cilicia, that flourished until 1375, playing a significant role during the Crusades. Then, they lost their last monarchy to the emerging Ottoman Empire, after the latter's westward expansion was stopped at the gates of Vienna. For more than two centuries, Armenia was devastated by the wars between two empires: the Iranian and the Ottoman. Starting at the end of the eighteenth century, the Russian empire also gained a foothold south of the Caucasus Mountains, defeating the Iranians and the Ottomans in a series of wars. The Armenian plateau thus became subject to the advances of three empires.

    At the onset of the twentieth century, historical Armenia was divided between the Russian and the Ottoman (Turkish) Empires. Starting in the 1890s, periodical massacres of Armenians were organized by the Turkish authorities, which culminated in the genocide of 1915–1923. The Young Turk leadership of the Ottoman Empire, which had come to power


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    Quote Originally Posted by Petros Agapetos View Post

    This is typical Armenian city music. Does it sound like Turkish, Greek. Georgian, Persian, North Caucasus music?
    Very nice, but it really sounds kind of Kurdish or Balkan. Not Georgian at all.
    This what Georgian traditional song sounds like

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    Armenia is a landlocked country with Turkey to the west and Georgia to the north, Armenia boasts a history longer than most other European countries.
    Situated along the route of the Great Silk Road, it has fallen within the orbit of a number of cultural influences and empires.

    After independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, Armenia quickly became drawn into a bloody conflict with Azerbaijan over the mostly Armenian-speaking region of Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Its rich cultural and architectural heritage combines elements from different traditions. The Armenian language is part of the Indo-European family, but its alphabet is unique.
    Divided between the Persians and Ottomans in the 16th century, eastern Armenian territories became part of the Russian Empire in the early 19th century, while the rest stayed within the Ottoman Empire.

    Between 1915 and 1917, hundreds of thousands of ethnic Armenians died at the hands of government troops in the Ottoman Empire.
    At a glance

    Yerevan wants Turkey, and the world, to recognize the deaths as genocide, and some countries have done so.
    However, Turkey says that there was no genocide and that the dead were victims of World War I, and that ethnic Turks also suffered in the conflict.
    The governments of the two countries agreed to normalise relations in October 2009, but ratification has been stalled by new demands on both sides.

    An independent Republic of Armenia was proclaimed at the end of the first world war but was short-lived, lasting only until the beginning of the 1920s when the Bolsheviks incorporated it into the Soviet Union.

    When Soviet rule collapsed in 1991, Armenia regained independence but retained a Russian military base at Gyumri.

    In the mid-1990s the government embarked on an economic reform programme which brought some stability and growth. The country became a member of the Council of Europe in 2001.

    Unemployment and poverty remain widespread. Armenia's economic problems are aggravated by a trade blockade imposed by neighbouring Turkey and Azerbaijan since the dispute over Nagorno-Karabakh.

    Despite these problems, Armenia's economy experienced several years of double-digit growth before a sharp downturn set in in 2008. Though the economy grew by about 7% in 2012, by the beginning of 2013 more than 30% of the population were still living below the poverty line.
    The conflict over the predominantly Armenian-populated region in Azerbaijan overshadowed Armenia's return to independence.

    Full-scale war broke out the same year as ethnic Armenians in Karabakh fought for independence, supported by troops and resources from Armenia proper. A ceasefire in place since 1994 has failed to deliver any lasting solution.

    Armenia receives most of its gas supply from Russia and, like some other republics of the former Soviet Union, has had to face sharp price rises. Russian gas arrives via a pipeline running through Georgia.

    Armenia has a huge diaspora and has always experienced waves of emigration, but the exodus of recent years has caused real alarm. It is estimated that Armenia has lost up to a quarter of its population since independence, as young families seek what they hope will be a better life abroad.

    One of the earliest Christian civilisations, its first churches were founded in the fourth century. In later centuries, it frequently oscillated between Byzantine, Persian, Mongol or Turkish control, as well as periods of independence.

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    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...Armenian+Music
    Here is a great thread on Armenian music. See what music it sounds like: Greek, Turkish, Persian, Georgian, North Caucasian, Middle Eastern, Israeli. etc.

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