Arrival of Indo-Europeans to Scandinavia in rock art

[cosmoo]

So, if you will have bambo child, it will be not yours...

I'm not familiar with meaning of word "bambo".

If that is the case, then I could be South European np

Oh silly, it's not about passing into modern nations or any other nonsense that anthrotards here invent, but about types that were established several thousand years ago.
For example, if you look like IE (Nordid), you are IE. If you look Med, you are descendant of Neolithic settlers. If you look UP, you are aboriginal European. Simple as that.

[Pahli]

I'm not familiar with meaning of word "bambo".

Oh silly, it's not about passing into modern nations or any other nonsense that anthrotards here invent, but about types that were established several thousands years ago.
For example, if you look like IE (Nordid), you are IE. If you look Med, you are descendant of Neolithicsettlers. If you look UP, you are aboriginal European. Simple as that.

Kek Neolithic master race

[Danaan]

I doubt Neolithic farmers reached as far as Finland and the Baltic countries. They got their Anatolian / Caucasian admixture from the IE speaking tribes. However modern Balts are still 70 - 80% NE European, pretty close to SHG in my previous post. Here's a result of a Latvian guy I matched with on Gedmatch. The thing is that some Latvians have Swedish / German / Russian admixture which adds some extra Neolithic to their results:

Modern Balts have a significant amount of Kotias and European Neolithic admixture, apart from Loschbour+Karelia HG. Motala HGs didn't have any. They were just Loschbour+Karelia HG.

[Ultra]

Autosomaly, Scandinavia before IEs was 95% Anatolian.

[Pahli]

Modern Balts have a significant amount of Kotias and European Neolithic admixture, apart from Loschbour+Karelia HG. Motala HGs didn't have any. They were just Loschbour+Karelia HG.

I know, but they have the highest amount of European HG admixture.

[johen]

These new carvings depict the arrival - by sea - of large fleets of immigrants, who had the knowledge of metal-working, were armed in battle axes (see: Battle Axe culture) and worshipped foreign deities

Did nomad IE use ships?

https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rysunki_naskalne_w_Tanum




This artwork most likely depicts an Indo-European high priest, an archetype of god Thor:

The priest looks like shaman. Cross means a flying crow, which symbolizes shaman, a messenger from sky.

http://www.thuleia.com/shamandrum.html

[Peterski]

How do you think they get into Scandia? On
foot? Or they yacht on their horses backs?

Yeah. There was no other way into Southern Sweden and Norway.

[johen]

I left for you Sardinia and Spain for comparition...
Don;t hurt yourself again now, it is pointless anyway.

Attachment 63595

seems like Paleo European types almost disappeared in Europe at that time. That is why C. brace got the following result even if Indoeuropean brought Paleo European type into Europe during bronze age. And question of where the Paleo type IndoEuropean Came from.http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...oeuropoid-type

When 24 craniofacial measurements of a series of human populations are used to generate neighbor-joining dendrograms, it is no surprise that all modern European groups, ranging all of the way from Scandinavia to eastern Europe and throughout the Mediterranean to the Middle East, show that they are closely related to each other.

And modern Europeans have tapered dental arch against square dental arch of UP/Cromagnon:

RESULTS: The most frequent mandibular arch form of the Israeli group was found to be ovoid as opposed to tapered in the North American white group.

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...t=#post4154874

[johen]

eidt

[Peterski]

Genetic data seems to confirm this arrival of Indo-Europeans by boats:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post4939664

Kivutkalns153, Latvia, Bronze Age, 800–545 BC, R1a1a1b1a3-YP1370 (a subclade of R1a-Z284).

I guess this Latvian Z284 proves that some R1a came to Scandinavia from the East Baltic area. First R1a came to Scandinavia already with Corded Ware culture, while N1c came probably much later.

These are the oldest R1a samples from Scandinavia:

Sweden RISE94, Viby, Götaland, 2621-2472 BC
Denmark RISE61, Kyndeløse, Zealand, 2650-2300 BC
Sweden LNBA, Ölsund, Hälsingland, 2573-2140 BC
Denmark RISE42, Marbjerg, Zealand, 2191-1972 BC

As you can see 3 of them are from Southern Scandinavia, but one (Olsund) is from Northern Sweden.

Olsund individual is discussed in this paper:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...13241.full.pdf

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...1/113241-1.pdf

About the origins of Corded Ware culture:

http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/1...hungarian.html

For comparison the oldest known sample of N1c from Europe is also from 2500 BC, but found near Smolensk in Russia. There was no any N1c in Scandinavia at that time, but there was already some in western Russia.

R1a migrated to Scandinavia either from Latvia-Lithuania-Poland by boats across the Baltic Sea, or from Germany (both routes are possible). N1c migrated to Scandinavia much later, likely from Finland-Estonia.

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Possible routes of R1a migration to Scandinavia with Corded Ware culture (red arrows):

https://i.imgur.com/GfE3Abm.png

Why do you exclude migration via Finland, as there were Cordeds also

Because this paper claims that Olsund sample was most autosomally similar to Baltic Bronze Age samples:

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...13241.full.pdf

CTRL + F type Olsund and find this info.

Also rock art of native Scandinavian I-men depicts the arrival of some R1-men by boats, which is consistent with the Oslund man being descended from immigrants from the East Baltic area.