View Poll Results: What language(s) does Armenian sound like?

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  • Georgian

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  • Greek

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  • Turkish

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  • Persian

    4 44.44%
  • Romanian

    0 0%
  • Albanian

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  • Arabic

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  • Middle Eastern language

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  • Slavic language

    2 22.22%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raine View Post
    Sounds a bit like Persian. I don't remember what Georgian sounds like to compare.

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    The Armenian language has ties to both the Iranian and the Greek sub-branches of the Indo-European language family, except the interactions between Armenians and Iranians are more recent. The Iranian language that influenced the Armenian language is not Persian, but rather Parthian, which is an ancient West Iranian language, that is no longer spoken. Nowadays, phonetically, Armenian sounds closest to Georgian (in my opinion), because we share almost all our phonemes, besides the intonation is also somewhat similar.
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    Armenian is an independent branch of the Indo-European language family, like Greek and Albanian.
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    It is clear that Armenian is an Indo-European language, but its development is opaque. In any case, Armenian has many layers of loanwords and shows traces of long language contact with Hurro-Urartian, Greek and Indo-Iranian.

    The Armenians according to Diakonoff, are then an amalgam of the Hurrians (and Urartians), Luvians and the Mushki. After arriving in its historical territory, Proto-Armenian would appear to have undergone massive influence on part the languages it eventually replaced. Armenian phonology, for instance, appears to have been greatly affected by Urartian, which may suggest a long period of bilingualism.

    Diakonoff (1985) and Greppin (1991) etymologize several Old Armenian words as having a possible Hurro-Urartian origin:

    agarak "field" from Hurrian awari "field";
    ałaxin "slave girl" from Hurrian al(l)a(e)ḫḫenne;
    arciw "eagle" from Urartian Arṣiba, a proper name with a presumed meaning of "eagle";
    art "field" from Hurrian arde "town" (rejected by Diakonoff and Fournet);
    astem "to reveal one's ancestry" ad Hurrian ašti "woman, wife";
    caṙ "tree" from Urartian ṣârə "garden";
    cov "sea" from Urartian ṣûǝ "(inland) sea";
    kut "grain" from Hurrian kade "barley" (rejected by Diakonoff; closer to Greek kodomeýs "barley-roaster");
    maxr ~ marx "pine" from Hurrian māḫri "fir, juniper";
    pełem "dig, excavate" from Urartian pile "canal", Hurrian pilli (rejected by Diakonoff);
    salor ~ šlor "plum" from Hurrian *s̄all-orə or Urartian *šaluri (cf. Akkadian šallūru "plum");
    san "kettle" from Urartian sane "kettle, pot";
    sur "sword", from Urartian šure "sword", Hurrian šawri "weapon, spear" (considered doubtful by Diakonoff);
    tarma-ǰur "spring water" from Hurrian tarman(l)i "spring";
    ułt "camel" from Hurrian uḷtu "camel";
    xarxarel "to destroy" from Urartian harhar-š- "to destroy";
    xnjor "apple" from Hurrian ḫinzuri "apple" (itself from Akkadian hašhūru, šahšūru).

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    The Armenian Hypothesis claims that the Indo-European languages came from a language in Armenia to the Pontic steppe from which it expanded, according to the Kurgan hypothesis, into Western Europe. The Hittite, Indo-Iranian, Greek and Armenian branches split from the Armenian homeland. The Indo-Hittite model and does not include the Anatolian languages in its scenario, which are identified with the Kura-Araxes culture.

    Graeco-Aryan has comparatively wide support among Indo-Europeanists for the Indo-European Homeland to be located in the Armenian Highland. Early and strong evidence was given by Euler's 1979 examination on shared features in Greek and Sanskrit nominal flection. Used in tandem with the Graeco-Armenian hypothesis, the Armenian language would also be included under the label Aryano-Greco-Armenic, splitting into proto-Greek/Phrygian and "Armeno-Aryan" (ancestor of Armenian and Indo-Iranian).

    In the context of the Kurgan hypothesis, Greco-Aryan is also known as "Late PIE" or "Late Indo-European" (LIE), suggesting that Greco-Aryan forms a dialect group which corresponds to the latest stage of linguistic unity in the Indo-European homeland in the early part of the 3rd millennium BC. By 2500 BC, Proto-Greek and Proto-Indo-Iranian had separated, moving westward and eastward from the Pontic Steppe, respectively.

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    Armenian is classified as an Indo-European language, while Georgian isn't Indo-European, but is classified within the Kartvelian language group, instead.

    "A comparison between Georgian and Armenian reveals their phonology, morphology and syntax share few features in common, despite features shared across the whole language spectrum."

    "Georgian and Armenian have borrowed extensively from each other and from third sources, but they are historically unrelated and largely typologically unlike each other."

    https://www.quora.com/Are-Georgian-a...other-language

    *PostScript: Why two threads on this topic? Here's the other one:
    http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...e-to-you/page3
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    How do I sound in Armenian? Is my accent good? Can you tell?
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