Strange genetic facts about populations that surprise you.

[Sikeliot]

These are all things I find surprising:

1. Lebanese Muslims have more Western European genetic influence (be it Norman, French, etc) than the Christians.




2. Southernmost Italians are genetically closer to Jordanians than to Iberians, Bulgarians, or Armenians; likewise, Jordanians are genetically closer to Southern Italians than to Kurds and Iranians.



3. Despite looking quite a bit blacker, Jamaicans are on average roughly the same ratio of African to European ancestry as African Americans are (80-20).




4. Spaniards and Portuguese are genetically closer to Norwegians than to southern Italians and Aegean islanders despite looking MUCH more like the latter than the former.




5. Pacific Islanders often look very African, but they are genetically further from Sub-Saharan Africans than Europeans are.




6. Egyptians are on average only around 15-20% black/SSA. I would think it would be higher given the phenotype I see when Egyptians are shown on TV.




7. People from Mali, Senegal, and Gambia genetically shift toward the Maghreb, and away from other West Africans; you'd never know it looking at their phenotypes.

[Hadouken]

Sikeliot I already explained you about your nr.2 what it is about here

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4179084

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4179091

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4179091

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4179110

[Spyy]

number1 is really a great surprise to me

[Berahthraban]

1. But also more SSA, so not closer to us. Roughly, they're the same anyway.

2. a) Proof that Southern Italians are closer to Jordanians than to Bulgarians? Some lousy oracle isn't going to cut it for you to state this as a fact. Yes, Bulgarians have a lot more WHG, but Jordanians have a lot less, while also having much more SSA. Not saying that they can't be intermediate, but from what I have seen so far, you haven't given any good material to back it up.
b) The same goes here. From what I've seen in different pcas at least, Jordanians would be closer to Iranians. Furthermore, we can discuss how homogeneous Jordanians really are, and who has been the target for the very few samples there are.

5. Just curious, how much closer?

7. What do you mean with shift toward the Maghreb, in what sense? How much Caucasian are they, compared to Horners.

[Sikeliot]

Sikeliot I already explained you about your nr.2 what it is about here

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4179084

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4179091

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4179091

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4179110

What you said is right, but it does not disprove what I said. In fact, it explains why what I said in #2 is correct.

[Sikeliot]

1. But also more SSA, so not closer to us. Roughly, they're the same anyway.

Fair enough.

2. a) Proof that Southern Italians are closer to Jordanians than to Bulgarians? Some lousy oracle isn't going to cut it for you to state this as a fact. Yes, Bulgarians have a lot more WHG, but Jordanians have a lot less, while also having much more SSA. Not saying that they can't be intermediate, but from what I have seen so far, you haven't given any good material to back it up.
b) The same goes here. From what I've seen in different pcas at least, Jordanians would be closer to Iranians. Furthermore, we can discuss how homogeneous Jordanians really are, and who has been the target for the very few samples there are.

Oracles on GEDmatch are the way I determined this, with nearly 100 results all coming out the same way. Bulgarians may occasionally appear before Jordanians, but Iberians almost never do.

7. What do you mean with shift toward the Maghreb, in what sense? How much Caucasian are they, compared to Horners.

5-10% or so. Same is true for Nigerian Fulani and Hausa people.

[Bell Beaker]

Nr 8 Brazil despite having the most SSA of all big countries of Latin America is the country with the highest number of Whites (in absolute numbers).

[Berahthraban]

Oracles on GEDmatch are the way I determined this, with nearly 100 results all coming out the same way. Bulgarians may occasionally appear before Jordanians, but Iberians almost never do.

The Sicilian samples may be many, but I doubt the same thing about Jordanians. I'm not by any means convinced, but if it is correct, it might only be for Northern Jordanians, or what not. If you get my notion. If the diversity inside Jordania is big, but isn't caught up by gedmatch due to low samples, we can't make such conclusions.

[Sebastianus Rex]

1. Don't believe in that, Christian Leb look significantly more euro than muslims.
2. BS, vast majority of southern Italians and Jordanians look nothing alike.
3. If they are blacker on average then they must be more SSA on average.
4. LOL...you really believe that ? Genetic markers/components and the way they work and correlate are man made and is far from being an exact science. Iberians are obviously more similar to southern Italians than to Norwegians on average.
5. Same fallacy as number 4.
6. Some are, some are not. Not an homogeneous population so...
7. Yeah, it's BS. Most Malians are as black as they come.

In short these perceptions are based on two major fallacies:
1. Deficient methodology
2. Unsuficient data, samples are way too insignificant still.

[randomguy1235]

First group isn't Lebanese