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Thread: Why do people think that the Iberians chose to mix with the native population of America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tietar View Post
    The colonization of America occurred in the 16th century, when boat trips were very hard, only sailors, soldiers and strong laborers could endure such adventures. There was no place for white women.

    In later centuries when there were passenger ships the mixture was already a fact, and civilized mestizas and harnizas could be just as desirable as a European and there was no problem, it was all a matter of caste.

    Northern Europeans chose the most easy and natural option, which is to transport women or couples to their settlements on passenger ships.

    In short, mixture was forced, there was no choice.
    the first Euro settlers to the USA were families, married couples etc. And for the most part it stayed that way. Especially early on it was different in the caribbean and S. America. that is where the really large scale sugar plantations, mining operations were located. Plantations in the USA were smaller family run businesses for the most part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    Only few did it. The majority just had kids to non-white women because Portugal started send women for Brazil many years after the colonization has begun and those guys were looking for sex before it, their mixed children just happened. Non whites brazilians nowdays are pred. euro on 23andme because portuguese men used to rape non-white women and that's all.
    I believe in the Love

    I don't believe that many of them was case of rape

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    Quote Originally Posted by Litvin View Post
    In North America, Europeans also mixed with natives during the 1600s and 1700s. But North America to the north of Rio Grande (modern USA and Canada) had just 3,5 million people in 1492 AD:

    http://proceedings.caaconference.org...w_CAA_2000.pdf

    Central America and South America had at least 10 times more people in 1492 AD. Especially the civilized parts (Aztec, Mayan, Incan areas) were densely populated. North America received much more of European immigrants - at least from the 19th century onwards - than Latin America did:



    By contrast, more of African slaves were imported to Latin America than to North America.
    Only about 500K Black slaves came to the USA, and something like 15 Million to the Caribbean and S. America

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobi View Post
    There is someone who believe in it? Mixed people in americas are just a subproduct of colonization.
    If the colonization had been with men and women history would have been different.

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    Already Hernan Cortes himself started mixing:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Malinche

    La Malinche (Spanish pronunciation: [la maˈlintʃe]; c. 1496 or c. 1501 – c. 1529), known also as Malinalli [maliˈnalːi], Malintzin [maˈlintsin] or Doña Marina [ˈdoɲa maˈɾina], was a Nahua woman from the Mexican Gulf Coast, who played a role in the Spanish conquest of the Aztec Empire, acting as an interpreter, advisor, lover, and intermediary for the Spanish conquistador, Hernán Cortés. She was one of 20 women slaves given to the Spaniards by the natives of Tabasco in 1519.[1] Later, she became a mistress to Cortés and gave birth to his first son, Martín, who is considered one of the first Mestizos (people of mixed European and indigenous American ancestry).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guarani View Post
    Os Ibéricos sairam "comendo" todo mundo


    I believe that the exotic climate/landscapes of Brazil make people very sexually active

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbowmimi View Post
    "rape" meu filho conheço varias cabeças aí no sul que tem bisavó indigena casada no papel com imigrantes europeus
    E o que isso exatamente tem haver com os primórdios da colonização?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbowmimi View Post
    Mesma merda, a maioria comeu porque quis
    Não, não havia escolha no começo. Mulheres portuguesas começaram a vir para o Brasil bem depois.

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    Not only Cortes. For example Juan Cano married the daughter of Aztec Emperor Motecuhzoma.

    Intermarriage between Native aristocracy and Spaniards started immediately after year 1521.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainbowmimi View Post
    Many italians and others euro immigrants in the 20s mixed with non white people lol
    true. for example, I know a mulatta girl with Italian Surname, probably a Black or Mulatto mixed with Italian

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