The Original Aryans Of India Were Nordic Phenotypes, Can It Be Debunked?

[Myanthropologies]

This is a heavily controversial topic, but they were probably something in between Eastern Iranics and Eastern Europeans, genetically.

[Justalittlevisit]

I just wanna know what the original people of Harrapan Civilization looked like...https://hms.harvard.edu/news/genetic...mixture-8-8-13

Maybe they were indeed Indid.

There is a higher chance that the Indus priest-king looked similar to Narendra Modi and Abdus Salam than that he looked like Rickard Söderberg.

[mustang981]

Maybe they were indeed Indid.

There is a higher chance that the Indus priest-king looked similar to Narendra Modi and Abdus Salam than that he looked like Rickard Söderberg.

I would agree. The Afghan above you seems to think otherwise. Scythians (eastern Iranics) had nothing to do with the Vedic culture ancient India.

[Shah-Jehan]

I would agree. The Afghan above you seems to think otherwise. Scythians (eastern Iranics) had nothing to do with the Vedic culture ancient India.

Yeah, they were seen as Mlecchas, along with Kushans (Tocharians), Hunas (Hephtelites) etc.

[Dick]

[JMack]

I have the opinion that the first settlers of Indus Valley Civilization were some kind of mediterranoid Caucasoid people in a certain way similar to modern (Southern) Iranians and that original Dravidians were Caucasoids as well. With the gradual mixing between these first Caucasoid civilization builders and the primitive natives the civilization started to decline probably due to the agressivity of the Australoid/Gypsy looking natives towards the more sophisticated forms established by these Proto-Iranid Caucasoids. When the RigVedic Aryans arrived they have found the ashes of this civilization and intermixed between the last proto-Iranids (the original Dravidians) and the savage natives.

These first mediterranoid settlers were probably close racially and culturally to a lot of peoples in ancient Eurasia and it's amusing to find the cultural motifs shared between these civilizations. The cult of the bull or the double axe are found throughout the places where these first mediterranoids occupied, like Minoan Civilization in Crete, Çatal Huyuk in Anatolia and the Indus Valley in modern day India/Pakistan. Probably some archaic forms of Yoga have been initiated in the culture of Indus Valley civilization and the idea of rebirth is probably due to them as well (e.g. Eliade, Parpola, Zimmer).

It's also worth to be noted that the phenotype of the first Vedic Aryans is still a controversial thing, but the only thing I take for granted is that they were probably full Caucasoid with maybe some minor Mongoloid. The Indo-Aryans and Indo-Iranians immigrated in different waves to the subcontinent, a fact that hardens our interpretative perspectives on their presence in Indian subcontinent.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

This is a heavily controversial topic, but they were probably something in between Eastern Iranics and Eastern Europeans, genetically.

So ancient aryans were basically Churkas?

[Fractal]

I used to be under the impression that the Kalash people look most like the original Aryans of India but genetic proof has established that they mixed with incoming tribes long ago so it is still unknown what the original Aryans who migrated into the sub continent looked like.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalash...stern_genetics


Reading through the comments I am also convinced that the original Aryans came from outside of South Asia. R1a is not native to India.

http://eurogenes.blogspot.co.uk/2016...-probably.html

The Indus Valley Civilization was not indigenous at all, it was migrating Caucasians who mixed with the primitive natives, this is obvious due to the indigenous tribes of the region today, many of whom are isolated and still preserve their original cultures.

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[Balmung]

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[MagnusAurelius]

WRONGGGGG.

Very stupid post, this is all correct. The Kalash are most likely what the original RigVedic Aryans looked like but they probably mixed with the Dravidian Caucasoids since they have high rates of Haplogroup L. All the founders of the main great Civilizations on the Indian Subcontinent migrated from outside it, Dravidian Caucasoid Indus Valley Civilization and the Vedic Civilization after it. Fraters post, I agree with.

Persians are the true Aryans anyway, they are 95% Caucasoid, their nation literally means "Land of Aryans" and any concept of being Aryan pre-dates Vedic Civilization in Iran.